Who was the best, bar none , movie star of the 20th century?

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The discussion revolves around identifying the best movie star of the 20th century, considering various factors such as fan appreciation, box office success, and the quantity of films produced. Participants express their opinions on different actors, exploring their contributions to cinema and personal favorites.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose John Wayne as a top choice based on fan appreciation and box office success.
  • Jack Nicholson is highlighted by several participants for his captivating performances and ability to reinvent his fame through various roles.
  • James Stewart and Tom Hanks are mentioned as strong contenders for their versatility and impact on audiences.
  • Cary Grant is favored by one participant for his comedic role in "The Bishop's Wife."
  • Elizabeth Taylor and Katharine Hepburn are also nominated, with Hepburn's pairing with Spencer Tracy noted as significant.
  • Some participants discuss the influence of actors like Marilyn Monroe, James Dean, and Marlon Brando, while others mention contemporary actors like Johnny Depp and Gary Oldman for their range and style.
  • Jim Varney is humorously mentioned as a notable performer, despite being less conventional.
  • One participant emphasizes Gary Oldman's chameleon-like ability to portray diverse characters effectively.
  • Another participant expresses admiration for Jimmy Stewart's extensive range across genres.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on who the best movie star is, as multiple competing views and preferences are expressed throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about actors' ranges and contributions are subjective and depend on personal taste, with no definitive criteria established for determining the "best" star.

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This really is a hard choice for me, as there were several, but considering fan appreciation, money making, and quantity of movies made, I would pick JOHN WAYNE.
 
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Ditto,TJ...I'd like to add Evo for her work in stills.
 
Probably Jack Nicholson. He is vastly more fascinating than most actors to watch, and he has managed to relocate the center of his fame onto his most recent role more than most other actors.
First it was Randle P. McMurphy in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest Then it was Jake Giddes in Chinatown. Then it was the father in The Shinning. Then it was Van Horn in The Witches Of Eastwick. Then it was the Marine in A Few Good Men.
 
James Stewart or Tom Hanks for me.
 
Jack Nicholson has my vote.
 
Originally posted by Echo 6 Sierra
I'd like to add Evo for her work in stills.
You are so sweet...and FUNNY!

Actually, I did sing on national tv with Arlo Guthrie once. There must be some old timers out there that remember him.

My favorite actor is Cary Grant, my favorite film by him is a Christmas film The Bishop's Wife where he plays an angel. It is sooo funny.
 
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Originally posted by Evo
Actually, I did sing on national tv with Arlo Guthrie once. There must be some old timers out there that remember him.
NO JOKE?? ARLO GUTHRIE? Tell us about this! What show? You must have been just a BABY! :wink:
 
Originally posted by Tsunami
NO JOKE?? ARLO GUTHRIE? Tell us about this! What show? You must have been just a BABY! :wink:
Nothing glamorous. I worked for a radio station that had their transmitter bombed the the Ku Klux Klan and a song by Arlo Guthrie was playing when we went off the air.

There was a show called the Great American Dream Machine that did documentaries for PBS and they decided to do a documentary on us. Arlo was asked to write a song about the bombing and come to our station and sing it with the station workers for the show. I was asked to sit next to him for the filming.

And on topic, Arlo is also a movie star.
 
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"You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant"


I vote for Elizabeth Taylor.
 
  • #11
Originally posted by rick1138
"You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant"
Wow, I'm impressed, I didn't think anyone would know.
 
  • #12
I vote for Katharine Hepburn ... especially Katharine Hepburn / Spencer Tracy duo.
 
  • #13
Arlo Guthrie was a main character in a tv series that was filmed in Hawaii for a while. Not sure what happened to it though. I think it just didn't "pop" for the networks.

And speaking of Evo...is there an avatar or smiley with little chirpy birds flying in circles overhead, or little hearts swelling up and poppping...(swoon)Evo, would you be my Valentine? (blush) And forget pickles, I jus want to ride my mowtor-sickle.
 
  • #14
Peter Falk.

I'm serious. You sould see his work in films of John Cassavetes.
 
  • #15
Tough one...
Of course you can look at their effect on the populace...
Marilyn Monroe
James Dean
Marlon Brando
Liz Taylor

Or their esoteric style and proof of range...
Johnny Depp
Gary Oldman
Jack Nicholson
Robin Williams

Their classical style and technical abilities...
Bette Davis
Judi Densch (sp?)
Audrey Hepburn
Jim Varney
Juliette Binoche

Their box-office drawing power...
Arnold Schwartzenwhatever
James Stewart
Leonardo Dicaprio

The acting giants of the seventies/early eighties grit explosion...
Robert Deniro
Al Pachino
Harvey Keitel

God, this list could go on forever!

On most days I think I would have to go with a toss up between:
Johnny Depp, Gary Oldman and Jack Nicholson
With honorable mention to Jim Varney, of course.

I am surprised no one nominated Pauly Shore yet.
Didn't you see his heart wrenching performance in "Encino Man"?
 
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One_Raven, your mention of Gary Oldman made me realize I'd forgotten about him. He may in fact be the greatest living actor, now that Laurence Olivier is gone. Oldman's range is stupendous. He can play anything, it seems, powerfully and convincingly. Most people have probably seen him in several different things without realizing it was the same actor, he is such a complete chameleon.

Of course you're right, though: there is Jim Varney...
 
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I was tempted to say DeNiro, but he has pretty limited range. I would say Jimmy Stewart. When you look at his range, it is amazing. He did comedy very well (Harvey, Philadelphia Story), westerns, It's a Wonderful Life, and those Hitchcock movies.

Njorl
 
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Max Weinberg.
 

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