Why 1D well must has this solution?

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The discussion revolves around the solutions to the Schrödinger equation for a one-dimensional potential well, specifically addressing the validity of using complex exponential forms versus trigonometric forms of the wavefunction. Participants explore the implications of boundary conditions and the nature of wavefunctions for bound states.

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  • One participant presents the Schrödinger equation for a 1D well and proposes both trigonometric and complex exponential forms of the wavefunction, questioning the validity of the latter under boundary conditions.
  • Another participant suggests that the complex solution is reasonable and only differs from the textbook solution by a phase factor, implying that it can be used without issue.
  • A third participant emphasizes that the coefficients in the two forms of the wavefunction do not need to be equal, suggesting that both forms are equivalent despite different representations.
  • Further, a participant notes that using different names for constants in the two forms can clarify their equivalence, referencing Euler's formula to relate the two representations.
  • One participant expresses a concern about why the wavefunction for bound states must be real, indicating a belief that it should be constrained to real values.
  • Another participant counters that the restriction to real values is self-imposed and that the wavefunction does not need to be real, highlighting that expectation values remain unchanged regardless of the presence of imaginary components.

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Participants exhibit a mix of agreement and disagreement. While some acknowledge the equivalence of the two forms of the wavefunction, others debate the necessity of real coefficients for bound state solutions, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved on this point.

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Participants have not fully clarified the implications of using complex coefficients in terms of physical interpretation, nor have they resolved the conditions under which the wavefunction must be real.

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For 1D well with size a, the potential is V and when 0<=x<=a, V=0; othersize V = infinity


the Schrödinger equation becomes

[tex] \frac{d^2 f}{dx^2} + k^2 f = 0[/tex]

where f is the wavefunction.

For solving the equation, many textbook choose

[tex] f = A\sin(kx) + B\cos(kx)[/tex]

as the solution and apply the boundary conditions to find A and B. It is quite trival. However, I also try the solution

[tex] f = A\exp(ikx) + B\exp(-ikx)[/tex]

where [tex]i=\sqrt{-1}[/tex] and this is also a solution. But if I apply the boundary condition, I get

[tex] B=-A, f=i2A\sin(kx)=0[/tex]

and from this it gives the same condition for k but someone said this is wrong. I know that k could be positive or negative but for either case why can't I chose the general solution as

[tex] f = A\exp(ikx) + B\exp(-ikx)[/tex]
 
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Your solution seems perfectly reasonable to me, it only differs from the textbook one with a phase factor, it seems, and as we know, for real physical quantities such factors doesn't matter. So I'd say you can use your solution.
 
1) recall that A,B in these two eq's is not nessicary equal:
[tex]f = A\sin(kx) + B\cos(kx)[/tex]
[tex]f = A\exp(ikx) + B\exp(-ikx)[/tex]

2) Also recall that you can write [tex]f = A\exp(ikx) + B\exp(-ikx)[/tex]
as something with cos and sin. So the two solutions are the same, except that you can't have the same A and B...
 
The equivalence of the two solutions is more apparent if you use different names for the arbitrary constants:

[tex]\psi = A \cos {kx} + B \sin {kx}[/tex]

[tex]\psi = C e^{ikx} + D e^{-ikx}[/tex]

Using Euler's formula

[tex]e^{i \theta} = \cos \theta + i \sin \theta[/tex]

you can derive equations for C and D in terms of A and B, and vice versa. So it's only a matter of convenience which solution you use.
 
Thanks for all your reply. Well, I know that the solution (bound state) should be

[tex]A\sin(kx) + B\cos(kx)[/tex]

that why I need to take the real part of my solution mentioned before. But my question is: why wave function for bound state must be real?

Thanks. Have a nice thanksgiving.
 
It does not have to! It is you who restrict the vaules of A and B to be real numbers.
When introducing constants, one has to specify which set they belong to.
 
It shouldn't matter if you have the factor of i in your bound state solution. When finding <psi \ psi> or any expectation value, you multiply by the complex congagate of the wave function anyway. This eventually results in the same value as if the i was never there. It may seem weird that the wavefunction itself is imaginary, but all that really matters are the physically measurable values.
 

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