Why amonia is a base and not water?

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The discussion centers around why ammonia (NH3) acts as a base in water rather than as an acid. Participants explore the chemical properties of ammonia and water, including their molecular structures and interactions, through various theoretical frameworks such as Brønsted-Lowry and Lewis theories.

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  • Some participants propose that ammonia acts as a base because the nitrogen atom has a lone electron pair, making it a proton acceptor.
  • Others argue that water is amphoteric and can act as both an acid and a base, depending on the context of the reaction.
  • A participant points out that while water has two lone pairs, it does not act as a proton acceptor from ammonia in this scenario.
  • Another participant explains that according to Brønsted-Lowry theory, water acts as an acid when it donates a proton to ammonia, which accepts it and thus acts as a base.
  • Some participants discuss the geometry and electronegativity of the molecules, suggesting that the polar nature of water and the lone pair on ammonia influence their behavior in reactions.
  • One participant mentions that the energy dynamics of bond formation and breaking play a role in determining why ammonia accepts a proton instead of donating one.

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Participants express differing views on the specific reasons why ammonia acts as a base and water as an acid. There is no consensus on a singular explanation, and multiple competing perspectives remain throughout the discussion.

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Some limitations include the dependence on theoretical frameworks (Brønsted-Lowry vs. Lewis theory) and the complexity of molecular interactions, which are not fully resolved in the discussion.

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Why amonia NH3 in water acts as a base and not an acid?
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Because the nitrogen atom has a lone electron pair, and thus is a proton acceptor. Proton acceptors are bases.

- Warren
 
but water has two lone electron pair!
 
Water is amphoteric -- it can indeed act as a base, but it can also act as an acid.

- Warren
 
Sorry, Warren, but water is amphoteric and why it can not act as a proton acceptor from NH3?
 
Technically speaking, water is amphiprotic. Wiki has a good explanation of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphiprotic

But as to the original question:
When you combine water with say, Hydrogen Chloride, HCl is the acid and Water is the base (according to Brønsted-Lowry theory because water is accepting the proton)
H2O + HCl → H3O+ + Cl−

In the case of combining water with Ammonia you get this reaction:
H2O + NH3 → NH4+ + OH−
Ammonia is clearly accepting the proton and thus (again according to Brønsted-Lowry theory) is the base. (and water is the acid).

Your explanation about electron pairs would fit in more with Lewis Theory of acids and bases, but it still doesn't change anything, as Ammonia is donating its electron pair in that reaction which still makes it a base.

So the reason it is a base is simply because the proton goes there (or because the electron pair leaves)
 
Oaksinstructor said:
Ammonia is clearly accepting the proton and thus (again according to Brønsted-Lowry theory) is the base. (and water is the acid).

It still doesn't answer the question WHY ammonia is accepting th eproton, instead of donating one of its own to water molecule. And that's the question SciencePF asked.


 
If you look at the geometry(bent) at an [tex]H_{2}0[/tex] it is a polar molecule. The Oxygen is pretty electronegitive: So the oxygen has a partial charge of [tex]-2\delta[/tex]. Then each Hydrogen has a [tex]+\delta[/tex]. Then the lewis structure of the ammonia has the lone pair of [tex]e^-[/tex] and will take one of the [tex]H^+[/tex]. Hope that helps
 
Both H2O and NH3 are the sp3 hybridization which have the tetrahedral molecule with O and N as the center. For H2O, there are 2 H and 2 lone pairs. The two lone pairs of electrons in H2O can accept 2 H+, but it is far more difficult than in the case of NH3 which has only one lone pair. If water takes two protons, it will be too positive. If it takes one, it is not symmetrical. NH3 can take one proton making it a complete tetrahedron.
Overmore oxygen has higher electronegativity compared to nitrogen, so oxygen 'hates' H+ more than nitrogen.
 
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Yeah, like pixel said, it's because of energy in the bonds. There is either less energy required or more energy released (I didn't look it up to find out which) in the process of breaking bonds with water's H+ ion and forming NH4 than there is for NH3 to break a bond with an H+ and form H3O. Since this is the 'easier' process (in terms of energy) this is what happens.
 

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