Why are dogs more intelligent than cats?

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I mean where do dogs and pigs evolve from? Any has a table or arrows illustration about the evolutionary lineages all the way from fishes and the way they diverged to gorilla and humans and dog/pig and all that..

25 years ago I stopped eating pork and beef because I didn't like food with violent emotional history (like pigs being slaughtered). But when I learnt yesterday from Evo that pig is as intelligent as dog. I suddenly questioned why it is ok to kills pigs and not dogs.. or rather.. why we didn't give the same animal cruety label when killing pigs. Then I remembered the holocaust where 6 million jews were killed with inpuny like we kill pigs now. I read before where when we become desensitized to killing pigs in slaughter houses.. we treat and begin to see humans as pigs. So maybe the key to total world peace is to ban killing pigs and other animals (does cow have high iq too?). But let's not go to that for now.. but just study the evolutionary origins of dogs and pigs.
 
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Many cultures slaughter dogs for human consumption. Whales and dolphins are also slaughtered for food.

Not all animals are slaughtered in a mass production process. There are many ethical options available for farm raised animals to be consumed.
 
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Does anyone know a good book about evolution and IQ of animals? For 25 years. I didn't eat pork because they have emotions too and can suffer. I didn't know they have IQ same level as dogs. And it really disturbed me knowing it yesterday. So I got curious about evolutions.
 
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Does anyone know a good book about evolution and IQ of animals? For 25 years. I didn't eat pork because they have emotions too and can suffer. I didn't know they have IQ same level as dogs. And it really disturbed me knowing it yesterday. So I got curious about evolutions.
Are you sure that does not say more about more about your emotions, rather than that of the animal? Think about it.

Usually that is the case. The soft fluffy cute big eyed animal draws more human empathy ( if that is the word ), than the slimy ugly slithering stinky revolting creepy animal.
 
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Are you sure that does not say more about more about your emotions, rather than that of the animal? Think about it.

Usually that is the case. The soft fluffy cute big eyed animal draws more human empathy ( if that is the word ), than the slimy ugly slithering stinky revolting creepy animal.
I'm a Buddhist. Last I remembered 25 years ago was animals emotions can linger long after the animals died. So for every pig killed.. the violence is repeated in humans.. karma.

But I forgot. How developed is the emotion of pig versus a dog? They may have same IQ but could dogs have more Emotional Quotient than pigs?
 
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IQ is something measured by IQ tests. Until your cats, dogs and pigs get their sharpened number 2 pencils out, they don't have an IQ. Intelligence, yes, at least of some sort. But not IQ.
 
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Why dogs more intelligent than cats?

Not really the right question. Cats are good at being cats. Dogs are good at being dogs. Human bred dogs to help do things we like done. Cats, not yet so much. Cats are in business for themselves. Dogs are in business for us. Better information is around, but maybe now others can search for it.
 
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Many cultures slaughter dogs for human consumption. Whales and dolphins are also slaughtered for food.

Not all animals are slaughtered in a mass production process. There are many ethical options available for farm raised animals to be consumed.
These dogs were saved from being eaten.

Two hundred dogs that were destined for the dinner table now have bright futures thanks to an epic rescue by Humane Society International.

In a large-scale rescue that began on Jan. 9, HSI transported 200 dogs saved from a South Korean dog meat farm in Wonju, South Korea, to the United States, Canada and the United Kingdom. This is the sixth dog meat farm closure managed by the animal welfare organization, with a whopping 770 dogs rescued since January 2015 as part of the campaign to end the dog meat trade in South Korea and across Asia, a press release says.
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/watch-200-dogs-rescued-south-194442487.html
 
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The two cats i remember both got the upper hand over their respective dogs.
It was a slow and subtle progression.

I put an aluminum "Doggy Door" in the back room. The cat wouldn't go through it until he'd pushed it slightly ajar and peeked through , to be sure it was safe i guess.
So i replaced it with clear plexiglass. That made Cat happy, he'd sit behind it watching for birds in the yard. Cat soon learned to put his paw up just as Dog started in so he'd bump his nose and retreat. Cat loved the game and would keep dog out until i intervened..
Then i noticed Cat would position himself in a doorway between us and Dog and stare Dog down, daring him to approach. Dog made it known he wanted to join us but Cat delighted in tormenting him like a mean little kid.
Another Cat torment was to get up on a chair that Dog had to pass by and sink his claws into Dog's tail. Sometimes he'd jump onto Dog's back which terrified Dog. I guess he'd got his claws into Dog's nose often enough to discourage him from fighting back.
That cat could torment Dog into a temper tantrum ; he'd get right in Cat's face and bark for a whole minute but from a safe distance just out of claw's reach.


Cats just don't care much about bipeds i guess. All they want from us is to be fed and stroked.
But they do have emotions. Once Cat was in my chair and wouldn't move, so i tilted it forward and dumped him on the floor. He got up, slowly and deliberately turned around and swatted my knee with a paw but no claws, a definite "Oh Yeah ? Take That!" gesture. Then he strutted away with body language that reeked indignation and condescension.
I'd wounded his pride and he made it clear.


Cats are plenty smart. Just you have to really watch them to notice.

http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...and_cognition_are_cats_smarter_than_dogs.html
 
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The stray cats and dogs are two groups I have spent a significant amount of time with, in my opinion cats are more intelligent than dogs on average. But the smartest dog I knew was easily able to come to our flat on thirteenth floor, paw the door to hang out with us. Both are wonderful pets.

I would say crows cats and dogs are some of the smartest animals commonly accessible to everyone around the world. You can try to feed a crow some bread and soon hundreds will appear!
 
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I think the thread has said all it can say on the subject for GD and is closed.
 
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