Why Are Physicists Shy & Antisocial?

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The discussion centers around the stereotype that physicists are shy and antisocial, with participants sharing personal observations and experiences. While some contributors acknowledge that certain physicists exhibit shyness, they argue that this behavior is not universal and may be exaggerated. The conversation highlights that many physicists are social and engaging, countering the stereotype with examples of well-known physicists like Feynman, who were quite gregarious. Participants also explore the idea that the perception of physicists as socially inept may stem from their intense focus on academic pursuits, leading to less time spent in social settings. The lack of empirical studies on this topic is noted, with a call for more research to understand the social dynamics within the physics community. Overall, the thread emphasizes the diversity of personalities among physicists and questions the validity of the stereotype.
  • #31
nitsuj said:
No problem, thanks for the food for thought.

To ZapperZ's point, we're not the only ones clearly. It's all over media, contrary to ZapperZ's point, nerds & geeks are not imaginary or emulated from tv, it's the other way around...logically. From the inside looking out perhaps.

Contrary to what point?

Nerds and geeks, as you call it, are NOT exclusive only to physics. The media also depicts computer scientists, engineers, mathematicians, etc...etc. as those.

But since when what the media depicts is accurate? And what does this have anything to do with anything in this thread?

Back to the original post. If this is simply a guess and is not based on anything concrete, then aren't we discussing the properties of a unicorn? It doesn't exist, you say? Ah, but it is depicted in the movies and on TV! So we're not the only one!

Zz.
 
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  • #32
Zapper of course we are speaking generally, so moving on from there you said

"For example, how many and how often do you encounter actual physicists, rather than just what you see depicted in the media?"

I never said nerds & geeks are exclusive to physics. I'm a geek and work in accounting.

You're suggesting what is depicted in the media is inaccurate, it's not (stay within context). Unless you are also suggesting that every scientist depicted on TV has poor social skills, which of course isn't the case.

You brought media into this thread Zapper, I thought is was inaccurate the way you used it to suggest the OP would be wrong to base a stereo type from what they see on TV. Stereo types shown on TV generaly speaking are not inaccurate. In fact it's damn near proof, in particular if the stereo type depicted is popular like Big Bang Theory, The Simpsons.

Note as well it's about hummor, so easy on offence.



"If this is simply a guess and is not based on anything concrete, then aren't we discussing the properties of a unicorn? It doesn't exist, you say? Ah, but it is depicted in the movies and on TV! So we're not the only one!"

Zapper your posts & reasoning are typically well above par. What on Earth is with that comment above? Since unicorns are not real, and are shown on screens, all that is on screen is not real? I can't even derive a valid point from that comment above.
 
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  • #33
Cbray said:
But back on topic, I love to talk to girls, even the 'not so bright ones' too. They're very nice, kind, and love to hear about your life etc. I doubt I'll be very shy when I'm older.

Wait until you are older... At first you love talking to girls and love when they talk to you, but then later on you love it when they stop talking. They might seem to love hearing about your life now, but later they will love to tell you how to live your life... Or maybe I am just getting bitter and cynical.
 
  • #34
Casco said:
I think that that physicists are shy and antisocial, sometimes is much and sometimes is just a little. Some physicists have troubles when talking to girls in the case of men. It seems that there are not studies about this topic. Their behaviour and interaction with the world, socially speaking (I think) is very primitive compared with the academic or intelectual level that physicists have. I would like to hear your comment about this. Not necessarily all physicists are shy and antisocial. But I am quite sure that all of us have seen a colleague with this behaviour.

If anyone know about a serious investigation about this topic I would be very grateful to have the reference.

Actually some times people think that they don't need this world and they can live alone,This is the matter with the physicists.
 
  • #35
nitsuj said:
I'll go ahead and say it. Stupid people have an interest in pop culture (including "pop" social venues); smart people have no interest pop culture. Generally speaking :smile:.

Perhaps high IQ & being pop cultured is an inverse relationship. Generally speaking :smile:, [STRIKE]& highly unlikely.[/STRIKE]

I agree and I love you said it, but the word "stupid" people is a little inappropriate. They are just shallow humans, who don't examine things they do very much.
 
  • #36
I would love to know what do you mean by "pop culture".
 
  • #37
cbetanco said:
Wait until you are older... At first you love talking to girls and love when they talk to you, but then later on you love it when they stop talking. They might seem to love hearing about your life now, but later they will love to tell you how to live your life... Or maybe I am just getting bitter and cynical.

Haha, I totally agree no doubt. But the world is a cruel place, that's why I spend most of my time in the dark studying ;)
 
  • #38
Rika said:
I would love to know what do you mean by "pop culture".

Obviously your question is setting up, so you'll have to clarify.

You must know what pop culture is.
 
  • #39
I'll try another way - did you mean by chance that people who watch movies, play video games or read comics are shallow idiots?
 
  • #40
Rika said:
I'll try another way - did you mean by chance that people who watch movies, play video games or read comics are shallow idiots?

lol, yea Rika that's exactly what I meant. You put it so much more eloquently.

It was a general comment, I can't be more specific without it being flat out wrong. If you miss the "feel" of what I was saying than...you miss out. You would have to read the thread from the start. There was a context there, as indicated by "I'll go ahead and say it,".
 
  • #41
nitsuj said:
lol, yea Rika that's exactly what I meant. You put it so much more eloquently.

It was a general comment, I can't be more specific without it being flat out wrong. If you miss the "feel" of what I was saying than...you miss out. You would have to read the thread from the start. There was a context there, as indicated by "I'll go ahead and say it,".

Can you support that assertion?
 
  • #42
Vagn said:
Can you support that assertion?
Sorry I can't... not enough interest to think much more about it
 
  • #43
nitsuj said:
lol, yea Rika that's exactly what I meant. You put it so much more eloquently.
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I think what are you saying is not true, I know a lot of people who has a remarkable career in science and they do all that you say that is for idiot people.
 
  • #44
Casco said:
I think what are you saying is not true, I know a lot of people who has a remarkable career in science and they do all that you say that is for idiot people.

What are you saying? If you are REAL physicist you think only about physics :P

Putting jokes aside it's really sad that people in physics community are so narrow-minded.

I think that by not watching movies or playing games you are missing a lot - some of them are masterpieces and having good general knowledge is a sign of being intellectual.
 
  • #45
Rika said:
What are you saying? If you are REAL physicist you think only about physics :P

Putting jokes aside it's really sad that people in physics community are so narrow-minded.

I think that by not watching movies or playing games you are missing a lot - some of them are masterpieces and having good general knowledge is a sign of being intellectual.
Human body is supposedly an active high level yet incomplete system. Therefore while running, it will also produce errors and unexpected memory leaks, until you could come down or up to work with particular systems will you be able to realize what they are and can you then propose appropriate policies to deal with them. I always believe that there are lessons I would learn as well as those people learn from me.
 
  • #46
Rika said:
What are you saying? If you are REAL physicist you think only about physics :P

Putting jokes aside it's really sad that people in physics community are so narrow-minded.

I think that by not watching movies or playing games you are missing a lot - some of them are masterpieces and having good general knowledge is a sign of being intellectual.

I don't think that all people in the physics community are narrow-minded like you say, and I'm positive that studying physics and things like movies or video games are not mutually exclusive...
 
  • #47
SHISHKABOB said:
I don't think that all people in the physics community are narrow-minded like you say

Ofc not but as you can see some of them are.

SHISHKABOB said:
I'm positive that studying physics and things like movies or video games are not mutually exclusive...

Yup.
 
  • #48
Rika said:
Ofc not but as you can see some of them are.

right but... there's no reason to specify physicists as being narrow-minded when it's obvious that it's not a trait particular to them. There's like two or three guys you've been responding to. That's not an accurate sampling whatsoever.
 
  • #49
You should see us here at the university of sussex, there are no shy physicists!
 
  • #50
TheWire247 said:
You should see us here at the university of sussex, there are no shy physicists!
In all my time there I don't remember meeting a single physicist...clearly shy to the point of hiding :-p
 
  • #51
Ryan_m_b said:
In all my time there I don't remember meeting a single physicist...clearly shy to the point of hiding :-p

University of Sussex guy owned! haha
 
  • #52
There are a lot of stereotypes that aren't really true, and I believe this to be one of them. What I would actually anticipate is that just the opposite is actually true and that this falls into the same category as "why are smart people unattractive/socially inept/very thin?," etc."

Instead ask, though, "Why do I THINK physicists are shy?" or "Why does SOCIETY think physicists are shy?" You could say that the myth is perpetuated by pop culture (Big Bang Theory, etc.), or maybe you could find a few high profile examples that were falsely generalized. Newton, for example.

Maybe you could even ask "Are people with asperger's syndrome more drawn to physics than the general population?"
 

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