Why can't Microsoft make a quality product?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the perceived quality of Microsoft products, including the XBOX 360, Vista operating system, and Zune media player. Participants express their frustrations and experiences with these products, exploring themes of reliability, market strategies, and alternatives.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants report multiple failures of the XBOX 360 and express dissatisfaction with Vista, labeling it a "complete disaster."
  • One viewpoint suggests that if Microsoft produced higher quality products, it would negatively impact their sales of future upgrades.
  • Another participant argues that the market does not prioritize reliability in gaming consoles, focusing instead on being first to market.
  • There is a claim that Vista is not as disastrous as portrayed, with a humorous suggestion that the Zune only fails on a specific day every four years.
  • Some participants express a lack of viable alternatives to Microsoft products, suggesting that other companies are perceived as worse.
  • One participant mentions purchasing a Zune due to its compatibility with Windows XP and the high cost of the PS3 at the time.
  • There is a humorous exchange regarding Microsoft Works, with some participants questioning its availability and functionality compared to other software suites.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion features multiple competing views regarding the quality of Microsoft products and the reasons for consumer choices. There is no consensus on whether Microsoft products are inherently poor or if market dynamics play a significant role in their perceived quality.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of frustration and humor regarding specific products, but there are unresolved claims about the reliability and functionality of Microsoft software and hardware. The discussion reflects a mix of personal experiences and broader market observations.

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My XBOX 360 has broken four times now, I have Vista which is a complete disaster, and my Zune doesn't even work with the operating system that they made. I would start buying products from a new company but many other companies are even worse than Microsoft is.
 
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well, think this way... if they actually make a quality product, who's going to buy the new shinny "upgrades" they come up 3 years from now?
 
tim_lou said:
well, think this way... if they actually make a quality product, who's going to buy the new shinny "upgrades" they come up 3 years from now?

That's true but I think a lot of people are going to be afraid to buy anything made by Microsoft at that point.
 
RiseAgainst said:
My XBOX 360 has broken four times now,
There is no market advantage in making a reliable games console. Nobody chooses a games console based on MTBF, the only thing that matters is first to market - or getting enough onto the shelves in time for christmas.

I have Vista which is a complete disaster,
No it isn't - in computer terms it's only a standard disaster.

and my Zune doesn't even work with the operating system that they made.
It only stop working on one day every four years - just reboot every new presidential inauguration!
 
Get a PS3. Its a much better product. :approve:
 
RiseAgainst said:
I would start buying products from a new company but many other companies are even worse than Microsoft is.

There's your answer. It's as good as it has to be.
 
mgb_phys said:
It only stop working on one day every four years - just reboot every new presidential inauguration!

No, it doesn't work on Vista at all. I need to download the update but I really don't have the time to go through all of that.
 
Operating systems, game counsels, and other like products are very difficult to design and manufacturer, you can't expect them to be perfect. If you think microsoft is so bad, then why buy their products? Most people do it because there is no one that makes a better that is even good enough to compete.
 
I bought their products because the PS3 was way too expensive at the time, the Zune was a better value and worked on XP which I had at the time and I am stuck with Vista until I download Linux or get Windows 7.
 
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If only there were some viable alternatives to putting up with Microsoft's crap. If I can think of any I'll help you out...

http://www.producepedia.com/images/commodity/apples.jpg

http://it.stlawu.edu/~biology/images/art_Penguins_emperor_and_chick.jpgNothing. Seems my mind got off track there...
 
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G01 said:
If only there were some viable alternatives to putting up with Microsoft's crap. If I can think of any I'll help you out...

Precious. :smile:
 
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Microsoft Works is an oxymoron!
:smile::smile:
 
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Newspeak said:
Microsoft Works is an oxymoron!
:smile::smile:

Can you even get MS works on a PC anymore?
 
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Yes, the new works comes with office 2007 and excel 2007.
 
  • #15
That doesn't make any sense. MS office 2007 is a suite which contains excel 2007 among other software. MS Works was MS's version of Open Office that was free to use.
 
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I wonder if its because my dad also has word 2007 and excel 2007 if they replace the other ones in open office. I didn't realize he did have them although they could be part of the free trial versions.
 

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