Why Can't We See Stars Beyond Earth?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the visibility of stars in photographs taken from space, particularly in relation to images that include the Earth or the Sun. Participants explore the reasons behind the absence of stars in these images, touching on aspects of photography, atmospheric effects, and the conditions of space.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the exposure settings of cameras used in space photography result in stars being outshone by the brightness of the Earth.
  • Others argue that the visibility of the Sun depends on the camera's orientation and the lack of atmospheric scattering in space.
  • A participant mentions that images from the Hubble Telescope do show stars, indicating that the absence of stars is not universal across all space images.
  • Some participants note that during nighttime, the Earth is darker, allowing for longer exposure times that can capture stars in photographs.
  • Concerns are raised about claims that satellite photos are faked due to the lack of visible stars, with some participants dismissing these claims as unfounded.
  • One participant expresses frustration with individuals who reject scientific explanations regarding space and NASA.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the visibility of stars in space photography, with no consensus reached. Some agree on the role of exposure settings, while others highlight different factors affecting visibility. The discussion includes conflicting opinions about the authenticity of satellite images.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various photographic techniques and conditions in space, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the specifics of camera settings and the impact of light exposure on visibility.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in astrophotography, space exploration, and the technical aspects of imaging in space may find this discussion relevant.

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How come in pictures taken from space, we cannot see stars or the sun?

Is it the atmosphere that allows us to see them?

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It's due to how exposure in photography works. Essentially the stars are outshone by the planet.
 
DeepSpace9 said:
How come in pictures taken from space, we cannot see stars or the sun?

This is only true if the Earth is in the picture. Haven't you ever seen pictures from the Hubble Telescope?

Also, if the sun is in the picture you WILL see it.
 
DeepSpace9 said:
How come in pictures taken from space, we cannot see stars or the sun?

Is it the atmosphere that allows us to see them?

The brightness of the Earth in the photo requires a very very short exposure time for the camera. (That's how long the shutter is open and letting light in) This exposure time is much too short to record the background stars, which are FAR dimmer than the Earth is.

The Sun isn't visible because of two things. First, the camera isn't facing the Sun so we don't see it directly. The second reason is that there isn't any air in space (or actually very very little) so the sunlight isn't scattered like it is in the atmosphere. That is why the sky is blue, the sunlight is being scattered by the air and the blue end of the spectrum is scattered more than the red end.
 
You can observe the same thing in images from the Apollo missions. If the camera would be sensitive to stars, the Earth (or the moon) would be just a big overexposed area of the photo.
 
You can also observe the same thing taking nighttime pictures with a flash on earth.
 
The sun is visible from space...
why would anyone say it isn't ??

there are many videos on the net etc of astronauts videoing sunrise over the limb of the earth

just one pic done from the Shuttle Discovery ...

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Hey thanks for the replies, and yes phinds I have seen Hubble telescope pictures.

I seen this picture on another forum, they were trying to say that all satellite photos are faked, since you cannot see any stars, this sounded ridiculous. I didn't know the real reason why though, so I decided to ask the people who know the most.
 
I recall seeing a video of the Earth from orbit at night and was definitely able to see stars.
 
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At night, the Earth is darker by some orders of magnitude, therefore the difference between Earth and stars is not so large. You can expose photographs (or videos) longer / with a larger aperture, which allows to see stars.
Here is a beautiful video. It ends as soon as the first signs of daylight are visible.
 
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DeepSpace9 said:
they were trying to say that all satellite photos are faked, since you cannot see any stars

It would be pretty easy to add fake stars to the black background of a fake picture.
 
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DeepSpace9 said:
... they were trying to say that all satellite photos are faked

You are REALLY wasting your time dealing with crackpots. Ignore them and move on.
 
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It is easier said than done, they are making me upset, talking about space and physics and NASA as if they were there.
 
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DeepSpace9 said:
It is easier said than done, they are making me upset, talking about space and physics and NASA as if they were there.

Most people are dissuaded as soon as you throw a little bit of REAL science or math at them. The more stubborn folks simply can't be reasoned with. Don't let them get to you, for there is nothing you can do about it. To them you are either with them or against them, for they cannot possibly be wrong.
 

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