Why did my coffee foam over when I added milk?

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The discussion centers around the phenomenon of coffee foaming over when cold almond milk is added to hot coffee. Participants explore potential explanations for this occurrence, including the effects of temperature differences, superheating, and the role of nucleation sites in boiling. The scope includes both theoretical and experiential insights related to the behavior of liquids under varying conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a surprising foaming over effect when adding cold almond milk to hot coffee, suggesting it resembled a chemical reaction rather than just a froth.
  • Another participant questions the quality of the almond milk, proposing that if it had built up CO2, it could explain the foaming.
  • Several participants express curiosity about the conditions under which the foaming occurred, including the temperature of the coffee and the method of heating (microwave).
  • One participant suggests that the uneven temperature distribution in microwaved liquids could lead to superheating, which might explain the violent foaming when the milk is added.
  • Another participant mentions the concept of superheating in microwaves, noting that it can cause water to exceed 100°C without boiling, which could lead to eruptions when disturbed.
  • Discussion includes the idea that freeze-dried coffee crystals could also contribute to nucleation sites, facilitating boiling in superheated liquids.
  • Some participants speculate on the conditions necessary for superheating and the role of foreign materials like sugar or coffee crystals in mitigating the risk of violent eruptions.

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Participants express various hypotheses regarding the foaming effect, but there is no consensus on a single explanation. Multiple competing views remain regarding the causes of the phenomenon, including superheating, nucleation sites, and the quality of the almond milk.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the phenomenon of superheating requires specific conditions, such as a clean cup and the absence of nucleation sites, which may not be present in typical scenarios. The discussion also highlights the importance of temperature distribution in microwaved liquids, which remains unresolved.

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I've made coffee before hundreds of times but today I was startled when poured in a bit of cold almond milk to my very hot coffee resulting in a violent foaming over the cup. It wasn't like a slop over spill. The coffee was not boiling at that moment, but adding the cold milk seemed to create an effect like it instantly and violently boiled over. It wasn't like the pouring created a nice froth and I added too much. It was a little bit and the foaming was like chemical reaction as if it were boiling. I'm a sure there is a simple explanation, but it's weird that never has happened to me before.

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Just a question: was the almond milk still good? I could imagine that if it had built ##CO_2## this could explain the effect or at least some resolved gas.
 
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fresh_42 said:
was the almond milk still good?
I hope so, what does bad almond milk taste like? :biggrin:
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
I hope so, what does bad almond milk taste like? :biggrin:
walnuts?
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
I hope so, what does bad almond milk taste like? :biggrin:
I don't know. I only have a similar strange and simple question about another effect which makes no physical sense. But I thought I'd better wait for an answer to your question before I hijack it, especially as I'm at least as curious as you are. A longer test series would be nice: varying by temperatures of both, or is it repeatable at all. However, you shouldn't drink every mug of the series: caffeine overdoses are mean.
 
I noticed a similar effect adding freeze-dried coffee crystals to just-below-boiling water in a cup on mornings I don't feel like a fresh pot. I assumed since I heated the cup and water in the microwave (I know, ugh!), the crystals broke surface tension and the "slurry" of hot water and partially dissolved crystals boiled over.

Wonder how hot your cup became from the coffee before adding almond milk? If relevant.
 
Klystron said:
Wonder how hot your cup became from the coffee before adding almond milk? If relevant.
Ah maybe an interesting fact is the cup was microwaved with the coffee in it.
 
Two data points? Darn, I microwaved a cup of brewed coffee strictly in the pursuit of science to test the hot-cup hypothesis but ran out of milk!
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
Ah maybe an interesting fact is the cup was microwaved with the coffee in it.
This could explain it. As the temperature distribution in microwaves isn't uniform, it might have happened, that some regions had been above the boiling point and some colder regions on top. Then the almond milk worked as a catalysator and its sinking created a path for the hotter coffee to boil. Combined with the milk, it resulted in foam.
 
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fresh_42 said:
This could explain it. As the temperature distribution in microwaves isn't uniform, it might have happened, that some regions had been above the boiling point and some colder regions on top. Then the almond milk worked as a catalysator and its sinking created a path for the hotter coffee to boil. Combined with the milk, it resulted in foam.
Very neat!
 
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Just a speculation, but some of those crystals might have been heated before they dissolved. Was there also sugar in the coffee?

A steam explosion required more than different temperatures. It needs a large surface area of contact between the hot and cold stuff; as in a vapor.

https://cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/16102/sugar-forming-tiny-bubbles-in-microwaved-coffee said:
Normally, a microwave is capable of superheating water. It is then above 100°C, but still liquid, because it lacks nucleation sites. Crystals like sugar provide such sites, so this would have been my first guess. But "stays there for the duration of the drinking" is strange, I hope you don't drink your coffe while it's above 100°C. Do you think this might be it? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superheatingrumtscho♦ Jul 12 '11 at 14:53

Freeze dried crystals might act like sugar crystals.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/boil-on-troubled-waters/ said:
yes, water can “explode” in the fashion described above. However, it takes near perfect conditions to bring this about, thus “exploding water” is not something the average hot beverage drinker who would otherwise now be eyeing his microwave with trepidation need fear. Odds are, you’ll go through life without ever viewing this phenomenon first-hand, and if you’re one of the rare few who does get to see it, you will likely not be harmed by the experience (that would take your standing right over the cup at the instant it happened, and the liquid’s bolting up and hitting your skin).

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has advised consumers:

This type of phenomenon occurs if water is heated in a clean cup. If foreign materials such as instant coffee or sugar are added before heating, the risk is greatly reduced. If superheating has occurred, a slight disturbance or movement such as picking up the cup, or pouring in a spoon full of instant coffee, may result in a violent eruption with the boiling water exploding out of the cup.
 
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Crystals can provide nucleation centres to initiate boiling in the superheated water.
Small bubbles can have the same effect, as illustrated by shaking a pop bottle (soda bottle?) Generating a few bubbles by shaking provides the necessary low pressure surface for gas to come out of solution. Rapid growth of the bubbles causing turbulence and break up of the bubbles, is positive feedback in bubble formation. Whoosh!
Pouring milk into the superheated coffee less than very carefully almost certainly produces a few bubbles and there you go again.
 
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The moral to the story is, never wash your coffee cup. o_O

I did that in my college years. A side benefit, when I ran out of instant coffee, just hot water in the dirty cup made a good drink. :wink:
 
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