Why Do Chimpanzees Have Superior Memory but Limited Language Skills?

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The discussion centers on the cognitive abilities of chimpanzees, specifically their superior memory capabilities contrasted with their limited language skills. Participants explore the evolutionary implications of these traits, drawing comparisons with other animals and discussing the adaptive significance of memory in various species.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that chimpanzees exhibit excellent memory but have limited language skills, suggesting a potential evolutionary trade-off.
  • Others mention that sports stars like Sam Snead and Larry Bird also possess remarkable memory, implying that such memory skills are beneficial in specific contexts.
  • A participant references a source suggesting that primates need to remember the locations of ripe and unripe fruits, raising questions about the evolutionary timeline of these memory skills.
  • It is proposed that many animals, including honey bees, demonstrate good memory as a useful adaptation, indicating that this trait is not exclusive to primates.
  • One participant speculates that the evolution of memory in mammals may have been influenced by changes in foraging behavior after significant environmental events, such as the impact of the Yucatan.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the notion that good memory is a useful adaptation across various species. However, there are competing views regarding the specific evolutionary pathways and purposes of memory development in primates and other animals.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes references to evolutionary timelines and the adaptive significance of memory, but lacks consensus on specific mechanisms or definitions related to these concepts.

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This is interesting, about chimpanzees not having much language but extremely fast and excellent memory.
https://youtu.be/ktkjUjcZid0

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symbolipoint said:
This is interesting, about chimpanzees not having much language but extremely fast and excellent memory.
https://youtu.be/ktkjUjcZid0

( I used the 'plain' tags. I hope that worked. Assumed, visitors, readers, members know what to do. )
Sports stars Sam Snead and Larry Bird remembered everything in detail. It's useful for sports.
 
symbolipoint said:
This is interesting, about chimpanzees not having much language but extremely fast and excellent memory.
https://youtu.be/ktkjUjcZid0

( I used the 'plain' tags. I hope that worked. Assumed, visitors, readers, members know what to do. )
I read somewhere (did I use that phrase? Sorry, I think it was The Blind Watchmaker) That primates have to remember where the ripe fruits are. Also the unripe so they can go back when they are ready.
When in our Evolution did this happen? Less than 7 million years ago?
Birds rats and squirrels are pretty good at remembering sequences too.
 
Lots of animals have good memories.
It is a generally useful adaptation.
Honey bees can learn colors and locations in single trials.
It would not have arisen in the human or primate lineage for some specific purpose.
 
BillTre said:
Lots of animals have good memories.
It is a generally useful adaptation.
Honey bees can learn colors and locations in single trials.
It would not have arisen in the human or primate lineage for some specific purpose.
I think line of reasoning was foraging was a fairly simple process for earlier mammals before Yucatan.
Selecting and learning what was going on with vegetation after that when they had more freedom played a part.
I will find the refs and try and put some meat on the bones.
 

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