Why Do We See the Same Stars All Year?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the visibility of stars throughout the year, specifically addressing the claim that the same stars can be seen all year long. Participants explore the scientific reasoning behind star visibility, including the concepts of circumpolar stars and the effects of Earth's orbit and rotation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that only certain stars, known as circumpolar stars, can be seen year-round, particularly those near Polaris.
  • Others explain that stars in the zodiac are only visible at certain times of the year due to their position relative to the sun and Earth's orbit.
  • A participant notes that while the positions of stars do not change, the subset visible on any given night varies.
  • There is a suggestion that the teacher's response may reflect a lack of scientific understanding or educational context.
  • Some participants express curiosity about the educational background of the teacher and the implications of their statements.
  • One participant humorously speculates about the teacher's motivations for providing a non-scientific answer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that not all stars are visible year-round, but there is disagreement about the implications of the teacher's statement and the educational context surrounding it. Multiple competing views on the visibility of stars remain present.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on specific definitions of visibility and may depend on the observer's location. The discussion includes imprecise language regarding star visibility and the nature of educational responses.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in astronomy, education, and the scientific explanation of celestial phenomena may find this discussion relevant.

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My teacher told us today that we can see the same stars in the sky all year long, but when I asked her why she couldn't answer me. She just said, "that's the way God wants it."

I would love a scientific explanation please.

Thanks,

Alexa
 
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Her orignal assertion is incorrect. In the northern hemishere, stars near Polaris can be seen all year round. However the stars of the zodiac can be seen only part of the year. These stars are roughly in the same plane as the Earth's orbit. Those which are opposite the sun can be seen, while those in the same direction as the sun are masked by the sun. As the Earth goes around the sun, which stars are hidden and which are visible change.
 
AlexaStar said:
My teacher told us today that we can see the same stars in the sky all year long, but when I asked her why she couldn't answer me. She just said, "that's the way God wants it."

Wow, what system of education is this from? What country, what state/region, what grade?
 
Only some stars are visible year round. These are called "circumpolar stars.":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumpolar_star

There is a nice image on the right side of this link which shows how the stars "appear" to move throughout the evening.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_Star

I say "appear" because the stars are actually stationary from our perspective since they are so far away. The Earth's rotation is what makes the stars appear to move. Notice how there is a dot in the center of the rings. This is the north star, Polaris. If you draw an imaginary line through the Earth's rotational axis it is in line with this star throughout the whole year always. As a result we see stars near Polaris in the night sky year round as well. Stars far away from Polaris in the night sky are close to the Earth's orbital plane, so we can only we see them when we are on a certain side of the sun (fall, winter, etc.)

Here is a link to an activity that shows this idea:

http://www.practicalphysics.org/go/Experiment_770.html I am glad that you sought an answer to your question when your teacher could not provide you with one.

I wonder what her teacher would say if asked why an atom doesn't fly apart because of all of the positive charges (protons) in the nucleus. =)
 
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berkeman said:
Wow, what system of education is this from? What country, what state/region, what grade?

I am very interested too. My guess is the U.S.

http://www.kutztown.edu/orgs/EPCTM/Images-4/CannotRead.JPG

I guess that's the way god wants it.
 
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AlexaStar said:
but when I asked her why she couldn't answer me. She just said, "that's the way God wants it."
Come November that could be the official NASA answer as well!
 
Well, except for a strip of sky that covers the sun, you can see almost all the sky available at your latitude year-round. The stars that are in the sky right after sunset are not all the same as the ones in the sky right before sunrise.
 
If you allow for a bit of imprecise language, they stars are the same all year, in that their positions don't change. It's just that the subset you can see on a particular night changes.

As for the god comment - the bell has gone, it's been a long day, there's a coffee waiting in the teachers lounge and an annoying little know-it-all (like me!) is asking questions!
 
mgb_phys said:
Come November that could be the official NASA answer as well!

:smile: [*cleans coffee off of monitor*]
 
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Maybe she was referring to the stars in the sky at either of the two poles...
 

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