Why does my netball go the wrong way?

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The discussion revolves around the unexpected curling behavior of a netball compared to a football when kicked. Participants explore the physics behind the ball's rotation and the factors influencing its trajectory, including surface texture and initial conditions. The conversation includes theoretical considerations and personal observations.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the direction of curl is related to the rotation imparted on the ball, questioning why a netball curls in the opposite direction compared to a football when kicked with the same foot.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the outcome depends on the part of the foot used to kick the ball, suggesting that initial rotation is crucial for understanding the curl direction.
  • A further explanation discusses how the surface structure of the ball, including joints, affects air resistance and thus the curling behavior, indicating that different balls may have different aerodynamic properties.
  • One participant mentions that the differences in curling behavior could also apply to soccer balls, referencing a TV documentary as a source of information, albeit with caution regarding its scientific reliability.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the factors influencing the curling of the balls, with no consensus reached on the primary reasons for the observed behavior. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific mechanics at play.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the initial conditions of the kick, such as the part of the foot used and the surface characteristics of the balls, are significant but not fully defined in the discussion. There is also mention of the potential variability in curling behavior across different types of balls.

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Individuals interested in sports physics, aerodynamics, or the mechanics of ball motion may find this discussion relevant.

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You know when you kick a football/soccer ball you can make it curl to the left if you kick with your right foot?
I tried doing that with a netball and much to my surprise, it curled to the right.
Does anyone know what has happened?
I did this in low wind conditions.
 
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ASFAIK it is not a matter of which foot you use, but what rotation the ball gets.
 
So when my foot hits the side of the football, it starts spinning anticlockwise and curls in the same direction. Yet when I kick the netball, it spins anticlockwise and curls in the opposite direction. Doesn't make sense.
 
"Kicking the ball" is far from being a safe condition to make an educated guess.
E.g. whether the kicked ball curls to the right or to the left also depends on which part of the foot you kick it with, i.e. the initial rotation. Another example is a golf ball. Players can play hooks to both sides, independent of whether they are right or left handed.

The curl itself depends on the ball's surface, which isn't smooth. Especially the joints play a crucial role, because they cause tiny turbulences which in return cause differences in air resistance on each side of the ball, which at last causes the curl.

So my favorite explanation is: Without additional information on the starting conditions, it's primary the joints and secondary the surface structure, which are typically both different on a football and a netball. Also think about the fact, that American football "balls" have joints along the direction it is thrown. This also explains, why extra points or long distance kicks aren't as easy as one might think.
 
so does this apply to soccer balls
 
Yes, especially there - at least as far as I remember a TV documentation on this subject.
Not that this is a trustful source on a scientific level, however, it provides a reasonable imagination.
I've used football = soccer and American football ≠ football.
 

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