Why does orbital angular momentum have to be an integer?

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The discussion revolves around the requirement that orbital angular momentum must be an integer in quantum mechanics. Participants explore the theoretical underpinnings, particularly from a group-theoretical perspective, and reference established concepts in quantum mechanics and representation theory.

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  • One participant notes that there is a group-theoretical reason for why the orbital angular momentum quantum number "l" must be an integer, suggesting a connection to the self-adjoint generator of the rotation symmetry group SO(3).
  • Another participant references their quantum mechanics teacher's explanation that single-valued irreducible unitary representations of SO(3) correspond to integer weights of angular momentum, implying that this leads to the conclusion that orbital angular momentum must also be integer-valued.
  • A third participant tentatively agrees with the previous point, indicating that once the integer characterization is established, the implications follow easily.
  • A later reply questions the assertion that single-valued irreps of SO(3) correspond to proper rotations, expressing skepticism about this part of the argument.

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Participants express some agreement regarding the connection between single-valued irreps of SO(3) and integer weights of angular momentum. However, there is disagreement and skepticism about certain aspects of the reasoning, particularly regarding the correspondence to proper rotations.

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Some assumptions about the representation theory and its implications for angular momentum may not be fully explored or agreed upon, leaving room for further clarification or debate.

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... for the fact that the orbital angular momentum weight is NOT a semi)integer positive number, but an integer.

Is there such a reason...? I've never seen it in some book. I know there are other reasons for which we conclude that "l" MUST be an integer, see Sakurai's thoughts attached.

However, orbital angular momentum is a type of angular momentum, the latter which, at quantum level, is the self-adjoint generator of the unitary group representations of the rotation symmetry group SO(3).

So there has to be some group-theoretical reason for which "l" must be an integer and NOT a semi-integer, soe other that Sturm-Liouville theory of PDE-s, etc...(see Sakurai)

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Here's what my QM teacher had to say.

Single-valued irreducible unitary representations of SO(3) 's covering group (i.e. SU(2) ) correspond to both single-valued and double-valued representations of SO(3). This fact is well known, it's due to the covering homomorphism which is double valued. The idea is that single-valued irreps of SO(3) correspond to proper rotations to which the orbital angular momentum is the self-adjoint generator. Since single-valued irreps of SO(3) are characterized by integer weights of angular-momentum, it thus follows that the weights of orbital angular momentum are integer. End of story.

If one sees any flaws in the argumentation above, poke me in the eye..

Daniel.
 
"Since single-valued irreps of SO(3) are characterized by integer weights of angular-momentum"

Yea I think that's true (off the top of my head), once that's established the rest goes through trivially.
 
On giving it a second thought, this part is if not false, then at least suspicious:

"The idea is that single-valued irreps of SO(3) correspond to proper rotations to which the orbital angular momentum is the self-adjoint generator."

Daniel.
 
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