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The discussion revolves around the proof that for each natural number n, it holds that n is not an element of itself (n ∉ n). The proof constructs a set X of natural numbers that do not contain themselves and shows that X is inductive, implying X equals the set of all natural numbers (ω). A key part of the proof involves demonstrating that if n' (the successor of n) were in n', it leads to contradictions regarding n being in itself. The conversation also seeks clarification on a specific logical implication related to set membership and subsets. Ultimately, the proof successfully establishes the foundational concept that no natural number can contain itself.
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Hi! (Smile)

I am looking at the proof of the following sentence:

For each natural number $n$ it holds that $n \notin n$.

Proof :

We define the set $X=\{ n \in \omega: n \notin n\}$.
It suffices to show that $X$ is an inductive set, because then $X=\omega$.
Obviously $\varnothing \in X$.
We suppose that $n \in X$ and we will show that $n'=n \cup \{n\} \in X$.

We suppose that $n' \in n'$. Then $n \cup \{ n \} \in n \cup \{ n \}$.
We have two cases:
  • $n \cup \{ n \} \in n$
  • $n \cup \{ n \} \in \{ n \} \rightarrow n \cup \{ n \}=n$

If $n \cup \{ n \} \in n$ then $n \cup \{ n \} \subset n \rightarrow \{ n \} \subset n \rightarrow n \in n$, contradiction since $n \in X$.

If $n \cup \{ n \}=n \rightarrow n \cup \{ n \} \subset n$ and from the proof of the previous sentence we conclude again to a contradiction.

So, $n' \notin n'$ and so $X$ is inductive, i.e. $X=\omega$.Could you explain me why $n \cup \{ n \} \subset n \rightarrow \{ n \} \subset n \rightarrow n \in n$ ? (Thinking)
 
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evinda said:
Could you explain me why $n \cup \{ n \} \subset n \rightarrow \{ n \} \subset n \rightarrow n \in n$ ?
For all sets $A$, $B$ and $C$ and for all $x$ it is the case that $A\cup B\subseteq C\implies B\subseteq C$ and $\{x\}\subseteq A\iff x\in A$.
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
For all sets $A$, $B$ and $C$ and for all $x$ it is the case that $A\cup B\subseteq C\implies B\subseteq C$ and $\{x\}\subseteq A\iff x\in A$.

I understand... Thanks a lot! (Cool)
 
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