Why ignore the potential term in the quantum Hamiltonian?

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The discussion revolves around the treatment of the potential term in the quantum Hamiltonian, specifically in the context of commutation relations. Participants explore the implications of discarding the potential term when calculating the commutator between position and Hamiltonian operators, and the justification for this approach.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the justification for discarding the potential term in the Hamiltonian when calculating the commutator [X,H], suggesting that it should be included since V is a function of X.
  • Another participant asserts that the commutator of an operator with any function of itself is zero, which is presented as the reason for the potential term's exclusion.
  • A further reply illustrates this by showing that the commutator [X, V(X)] equals zero due to the commutative property of multiplication of functions.
  • Participants discuss the implications of handling the reciprocal of an operator, suggesting that in linear algebra terms, the inverse operator commutes with the original operator, leading to the identity operator.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is disagreement regarding the treatment of the potential term in the Hamiltonian. While some participants argue for its exclusion based on commutation properties, others question this reasoning and seek clarification on the implications of including it.

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The discussion does not resolve the question of how to handle the reciprocal of an operator, nor does it clarify the implications of including the potential term in the commutation relation.

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I am reading about the recovery of some classical rules from quantum mechanics.

My text (Shankar) considers a Hamiltonian operator in a one-dimensional space
H = P^2 / 2m + V(X)
where P and X are the momentum and position operators respectively.

It then asserts that [X,H] = [X,P^2/2m]

That is, it has discarded the potential term of the Hamiltonian without comment or explanation.

How is that justified? I would have thought that if, as indicated, V is a function of X, the hamiltonian operator should be expressed in terms of that function.
For example, if V is a gravitational potential V(X) = -k/X, I would expect the above commutator to be

[X,H] = [X,P^2/2m-k/X] = [X,P] - k[X,1/X]

Why does Shankar discard the second term?
If one didn't discard it, what would [X,1/X] mean? Is there any way to handle the reciprocal of an operator?

Thanks for any help.
 
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The commutator of an operator with any function of itself is 0. That's why it's discarded. [x,f(x)]=0 for any f.
 
You can see that by letting act V(x) and x act on a test function:

[x, V(x)] f(x) = xVf - Vxf = 0

(simply b/c multiplication of functions is commutative)

This does no longer hold for p which acts as a derivative; using the stanbdard rules for derivatives w.r.t. x one finds

[p, V(x)] f(x) = pVf - Vpf = (pV)f + V(pf) - V (pf) ~ V'f + Vf' - Vf' = V'f
 
andrewkirk said:
If one didn't discard it, what would [X,1/X] mean? Is there any way to handle the reciprocal of an operator?

Think of it in terms of linear algebra. Parameter x -> operator X; parameter 1/x -> operator X-1. Then you have XX-1=X-1X=I, (the identity operator), because inverses commute (otherwise you wouldn't get I regardless).
 

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