Why In Struvite formation HPO42- is favored over PO43-?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the formation of Struvite (MgNH4PO4.6H2O) from its constituent ions, specifically focusing on the preference for HPO42- over PO43- in the formation process. Participants explore the implications of pH on the reaction dynamics and the energetics of deprotonation steps involved in the process.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the reaction for Struvite formation is more accurately represented with HPO42- rather than PO43-, due to the optimal pH range for Struvite formation being around 7 to 10/11, where HPO42- is predominant.
  • Another participant notes that at higher pH values, NH3 may become the predominant species instead of NH4+, which could complicate the crystal lattice formation.
  • A participant calculates the optimal pH for minimal solubility of Struvite using the average of the pKa values for HPO42- and NH4+, arriving at a value of approximately 10.9.
  • Further discussion includes the equations used to derive the optimal pH, including solubility product and acid dissociation constants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the favorability of using HPO42- versus PO43- in Struvite formation, with no consensus reached on the reasons behind the observed preference. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of pH and species predominance on the formation process.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific pKa values and Gibbs free energy variations, but the discussion does not resolve the implications of these calculations on the overall reaction dynamics.

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Cheers community, I have been studying the Struvite formation from respective ions. Being the general formula for Struvite MgNH4PO4.6H2O I intuitively tought the reaction would be
Mg2+ + NH4+ + PO43- + 6H2O↔ MgNH4PO4.6H2O.

However from literature and from practice, not only the optimal pH seems to be around the range from 7 to 10/11 where HPO42- is predominant as when Struvite forms tends to slightly decrease the pH of solutuon, which gives an hint for the release of a proton(H+), what suggests the real formula for struvite is
Mg2+ + NH4+ + HPO42- + 6H2O↔ MgNH4PO4.6H2O + H+.

My question is wouldn't it be more favorable for the system to generate Struvite directly from PO43- instead of HPO42-? doesn't it create a further energy consuming step for the deprotonation of the Hydrogen Phosphate?
From what I checked being pKa = 12.346 for reaction HPO42- = H+ + PO43-, the Free energy Gibbs Variation is ≅30,6 kJ mol-1, implying from what I know that this deprotonation step is not a spontaneous reaction.

Might there be a reason I'm negleting or forgetting that might explain why this reaction is driven by HPO42- instead of PO43-?

Thanks in advance for any insight you might have.
 
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I think at higher pH values, rather than NH4+, NH3 would be the predominant species in solution which is not even ionic and therefore might be more difficult to embed into the crystal lattice.
 
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I just tried to calculate the pH where the solubility of Struvite is minimal. If I got my maths right, the optimal pH is ##(\mathrm{pK_a(HPO_4^{2-})+pK_a(NH_4^{+}))/2 }##, which is about 10.9.
 
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Thank you DrDu, I was so focused on Phosphorus I didn't thought to remember the NH4+ turning to NH3 an evolving from solution.
DrDu said:
I just tried to calculate the pH where the solubility of Struvite is minimal. If I got my maths right, the optimal pH is ##(\mathrm{pK_a(HPO_4^{2-})+pK_a(NH_4^{+}))/2 }##, which is about 10.9.
That is an inteteresting value. What expression(s) did you use to get there to this sum of Pkas I don't remember this experession(maybe because I was too many years without working with solutions)?
 
I used the equations
##
K_{sp}=[Mg^{2}][NH_4^+][PO_4^{3-}] ##
## K_a(NH_4^{+})= [NH_3][H^+]/[NH_4^+]##
##K_a(HPO_4^{2-})=[PO_4^{3-}][H^+]/[HPO_4^{2-}]##
##[Mg^{2+}]=[NH_3]+[NH_4^+]=[HPO_4^{2-}]+[PO_4^{3-}]##
And looked for a minimum of ##[Mg^{2+}]## as a function of ##[H^+]##.
 
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