Why integrate at these points? (Electric potential of a sphere)

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The problem involves finding the electric potential both inside and outside a uniformly charged solid sphere, characterized by its radius R and total charge q. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the integration limits and the rationale behind integrating from infinity to the surface of the sphere and then from the surface to a point inside the sphere.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the choice of reference point for potential, specifically questioning the integration from infinity to the sphere's surface and then from the surface to a point inside. There is an exploration of how the potential outside the sphere influences the potential inside.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing clarifications on the integration process and the significance of the reference point for potential. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider different expressions for electric field inside and outside the sphere, indicating a productive direction in understanding the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of choosing the point where potential is defined as zero and how this affects the integration process. There is an acknowledgment of the need to break the integration into parts due to differing electric field expressions.

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Homework Statement


Find the potential inside and outside a uniformly charged solid sphere of radius R and total charge q.


Homework Equations


V(r) = -∫E dl


The Attempt at a Solution



I just have a question about finding the potential inside the sphere. Why integrate from infinity to the surface of the sphere (infinity to R) and add the integral of inside the sphere (R to r, whatever radius is inside the sphere). I'm just having trouble visualizing this integration, and why the integral is structured the way it is. Thanks in advance!
 
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This is tied to the question: Where are you choosing V = 0?

Remember, when you integrate -∫E\cdotdl between two points, you get the potential difference between those two points. So, if you want the potential at a point P, you can integrate from the point of zero potential to the point P.
 
Thanks for the reply!

So, if I'm interpreting this correctly, since I choose V=0 to be at infinity (the potential goes to 0 really, really far away from the charged sphere), I can integrate from infinity to point P for the potential difference. If point P is outside the sphere, I'm finding the potential difference outside the sphere. To find the potential inside the sphere, I would need to find the potential outside to radius R AND from radius R to some arbitrary r inside the sphere, because the potential outside the sphere still affects the inside potential?
 
To find the potential at a point inside the sphere, you need to integrate E from infinity to the point inside the sphere. Since the mathematical expression for E outside is different from the expression for E inside the sphere, you have to break up the integration into two parts.
 
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