Why is Electrolysis Less Than 50% Efficient?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the efficiency of electrolysis, particularly in the context of producing hydrogen for fuel cells. Participants explore factors contributing to energy loss during the electrolysis process.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether energy loss occurs primarily due to heat or the production of oxygen.
  • One participant seeks clarification on the definition of "efficient" in relation to the context of the discussion.
  • Another participant references a wiki source stating that electrolysis efficiency can range from 50% to 80%, suggesting that 80% efficiency is relatively good.
  • A participant emphasizes the principle of conservation of energy, explaining that achieving 100% efficiency would mean the energy required to split hydrogen and oxygen equals the energy obtained from burning it.
  • One participant notes that energy losses can occur due to heat and other factors in the electricity generation process, leading to efficiencies below 50% at times.
  • Factors affecting efficiency mentioned include stirring rates, junction potentials, machine efficiency, electrode area, and other reaction processes that consume charge.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the causes of energy loss and the definition of efficiency, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various factors that may influence efficiency, but the discussion does not resolve the complexities or dependencies involved in measuring and defining efficiency in electrolysis.

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Is energy lost to heat?...or is lost to the oxygen?
 
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Define "efficient". In what context do you ask?
 
In the context of producing hydrogen for fuel cells.
 
According to the wiki on the subject, electrolysis can be between 50% and 80% efficient. 80% seems pretty decent to me.

Just to head off a possible area of misunderstanding: you do understand that 100% efficiency just means it requires exactly as much energy to split the hydrogen and oxygen as you get back by buring it, right? You can't ever split it without at least putting that much energy into it. This is just conservation of energy in a chemical process: the equation is (note it can go in either direction):

H2O + Energy <=> H2 + (1/2)O2
 
dimensionless said:
Is energy lost to heat?...or is lost to the oxygen?

Apparently by heat and within the process used to generate the electricity , accounting for both processes yields an efficiency of < 50 % at times.

The rate of stirring as it pertains to junction potentials , the efficiency of the machine itself , area of the electrode , other reaction processes that take up the charge were all problems when I was conducting electrochemical experiments for undergrad.
 

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