Why is it that scientists think that dark matter annihilates

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The discussion revolves around the nature of dark matter, specifically addressing the concept of dark matter annihilation and its implications. Participants explore theoretical models, the potential for dark matter to produce light, and the differences between annihilation and decay processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the assumption that dark matter annihilates like antimatter, suggesting that for dark matter to exist for long periods, it should not annihilate significantly.
  • Others propose that dark matter could decay instead of annihilating, but emphasize that decay is not the same as annihilation.
  • A participant argues that dark matter could produce light through secondary interactions or suppressed processes, despite not interacting directly with light.
  • There is a suggestion that dark matter may consist of nearly equal parts matter and antimatter, leading to annihilation with regular matter, but this is contested by others who point out that many models treat dark matter as its own antiparticle.
  • Some participants highlight that in certain models, such as asymmetric dark matter, annihilation may not be a significant process at all.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether dark matter annihilates or decays, with no consensus reached on the mechanisms or implications of these processes. Multiple competing models and hypotheses are presented, reflecting ongoing debate.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of dark matter interactions and the various models that exist, including Majorana fermions and asymmetric dark matter, which influence the understanding of annihilation and decay.

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Why do scientists think that dark matter annihilates just like antimatter? How is it that dark matter during annihilation can produce light when it cannot emit or absorb light itself?
 
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They don't, in order for it to exist this long, it should not annihilate in any way. It might decay, but that's not the same. Just because something doesn't interact with light doesn't mean that it can't produce it. All interactions in the universe must obey the law that energy can not be created or destroyed, so if you have a 10TeV particle decaying into 2 4.8TeV particles, the universe must use that extra .4TeV for something, if there is no stable particle at that size, it's emitted as one or two photons.
 
newjerseyrunner said:
They don't, in order for it to exist this long, it should not annihilate in any way. It might decay, but that's not the same.
This is backwards. It is much easier for dark matter to have significant annihilation when you collect large amounts of it than for it to have significant decay. Also, we do not know that it annihilates, but it is a feature of many popular dark matter models.

newjerseyrunner said:
Just because something doesn't interact with light doesn't mean that it can't produce it.
Yes it does. Dark matter producing light in annihilations or decays are generally doing so in suppressed processes or by the secondary interactions of the annihilation or decay products.

newjerseyrunner said:
All interactions in the universe must obey the law that energy can not be created or destroyed, so if you have a 10TeV particle decaying into 2 4.8TeV particles, the universe must use that extra .4TeV for something, if there is no stable particle at that size, it's emitted as one or two photons.
You can easily take care of this by giving the produced particles more kinetic energy. There is no a priori need to emit additional photons. If the produced particles are charged, there is however a possibility that this occurs.
 
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rmoh13 said:
Why do scientists think that dark matter annihilates just like antimatter?
Dark matter is likely made up of nearly equal parts matter and anti-matter. The dark matter anti-particles would naturally annihilate with the particles, though obviously this effect has to happen quite slowly in order to allow so much dark matter to remain after billions of years.

rmoh13 said:
How is it that dark matter during annihilation can produce light when it cannot emit or absorb light itself?
During annihilation (or decay), dark matter could emit charged particle/anti-particle pairs which do emit light.
 
Chalnoth said:
Dark matter is likely made up of nearly equal parts matter and anti-matter.
This is not really true. In many models, dark matter is a Majorana fermion, meaning that it is its own antiparticle. If this is the case then there is no way of defining anti dark matter which is different - it is still going to annihilate though.

In addition, there are models of asymmetric dark matter which became popular a few years back. In most of those, dark matter does not decay.
 

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