Why Is Only One Solution for c Valid in This Probability Density Function?

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The discussion revolves around determining the valid value of the constant c in the probability density function f(x) = cx + (c^2)(x^2) for the interval 0 < x < 1. Participants are exploring why one of the potential solutions for c is rejected while the other is accepted.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants examine the conditions under which f(x) remains a proper probability density function, questioning the validity of negative values for c and the implications on the function's behavior.

Discussion Status

There is an active exploration of the reasons behind rejecting the negative solution for c, with participants discussing the necessity for the probability density function to remain non-negative across its domain. Some participants are seeking clarification on the nature of extraneous solutions and the conditions that lead to their emergence.

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Participants mention constraints such as the requirement for the cumulative probability to be increasing and the prohibition against using graphing calculators, which influences their reasoning about the behavior of the function.

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Q: Given f(x) = cx + (c^2)(x^2), 0<x<1.
What is c such that the above is a proper probability density function?


Solution:
1
∫ f(x) dx = 1
0
=> 2(c^2) + 3c - 6 =0
=> c= (-3 + sqrt57) / 4 or c= (-3 - sqrt57) / 4
=> Answer: c= (-3 + sqrt57) / 4 (the second one rejected)
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Now, what is the reason of rejecting c= (-3 - sqrt57) / 4 ?

Also, in which step is this extraneous solution produced and why is it produced?


Thanks for explaining!
 
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kingwinner said:
Q: Given f(x) = cx + (c^2)(x^2), 0<x<1.
What is c such that the above is a proper probability density function?


Solution:
1
∫ f(x) dx = 1
0
=> 2(c^2) + 3c - 6 =0
=> c= (-3 + sqrt57) / 4 or c= (-3 - sqrt57) / 4
=> Answer: c= (-3 + sqrt57) / 4 (the second one rejected)
======================================

Now, what is the reason of rejecting c= (-3 - sqrt57) / 4 ?

Also, in which step is this extraneous solution produced and why is it produced?


Thanks for explaining!
[itex]\int_0^1 cx+ c^2x^2 dx= c/2+ c^2/3[/itex]. Setting that equal to 1, c/2+ c2/3= 1, and multiplying through by 6, 3c+ 2c2= 6 or 2c2+ 3c- 6= 0. That has, as you say, roots of
[tex]c= \frac{-3\pm\sqrt{57}}{2}[/tex]

Because the cumulative probability must be increasing, if c were negative we could have a section on which the probability from a to b (b> a) might be negative and that is impossible. As to "where the extraneous solution was produced", it was really produced when the "c2" was put into the problem. That introduced the possiblity of a negative value of c.
 
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I don't see why the second one is rejected. Does it say it's rejected or is it just not in the answer?
 
Ah, OK. Nevermind. Makes sense.
 
Graphically speaking, if you draw f(x) and notice a section of it below the x-axis, then there's chance of getting a negative probability in some interval [a, b] which is a no no. That means that f must satisfy that additional property that f(x) >= 0 for all values of x. Right?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Because the cumulative probability must be increasing, if c were negative we could have a section on which the probability from a to b (b> a) might be negative and that is impossible.
OK, but how do you know for sure that for the second "c", there IS a section on which the density function is negative? (without a graphing calculator since I am not allowed to use it...)


As to "where the extraneous solution was produced", it was really produced when the "c2" was put into the problem. That introduced the possiblity of a negative value of c.
But the original density function has a c^2 too, I did NOT "square both sides", so there shouldn't be any extraneous solution, right?


Thanks a lot for your help and explanation!
 
If c= (-3-[itex]\sqrt{57})/4, which is approximately -2.7, then your probability density function is f(x) = cx + (c^2)(x^2) or f(x)= 6.9x<sup>2</sup>- 2.7x. That's a parabola and has zeros at x= 0 and x= 2.7/6.9= .391! If x= .25, f(.25)= 6.9(.0625)- 2.7(.25)= -.632> 0 which means that f(x)< 0 for all x between 0 and .391. If you were to use that value for c, you would find that the "probability" that x las between, say 0 and .25 was negative![/itex]
 

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