Why is the cusp not a submanifold?

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In summary, the book says that the cusp y=x^2/3 is not an embedded submanifold of R². My notes say that the embedding is defined like this: Let M and N be differentiable manifolds, and f:M\to N a smooth (C^{\infty}) mapping. If for all p\in M the tangent space mapping f_{*p}:T_p(M)\to T_{f(p)}(N) is injective, and f:M\to f(M) is a homeomorphism when f(M) has the induced topology from N, then f is an embedding of M in N. However, if we set
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My book says that the cusp y=x^2/3 is not an embedded submanifold of R². Why is that?
 
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According to my notes the embedding is defined like this:

Let M and N be differentiable manifolds, and [tex]f:M\to N[/tex] a smooth ([tex]C^{\infty}[/tex]) mapping. If for all [tex]p\in M[/tex] the tangent space mapping [tex]f_{*p}:T_p(M)\to T_{f(p)}(N)[/tex] is injective, and [tex]f:M\to f(M)[/tex] is a homeomorphism when [tex]f(M)[/tex] has the induced topology from N, then [tex]f[/tex] is an embedding of M in N.

If we set the natural differentiable structures on [tex]\mathbb{R}[/tex] and [tex]\mathbb{R}^2[/tex], then a mapping

[tex]f:\mathbb{R}\to\mathbb{R}^2,\quad\quad f(x)=(x, (x^2)^{1/3})[/tex]

is not an embedding, because it is not smooth at origo.
 
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True, but an embedded submanifold is by definition (or characterisation) the image of a smooth embedding. Couldn't there be a pair (M, f) other than M=R and f given in your post such that f(M) = the cusp, and such that f is an smooth embedding?
 
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So is the real question this: We give [tex]\mathbb{R}^2[/tex] the natural differentiable structure, define [tex]f:\mathbb{R}\to\mathbb{R}^2[/tex] like in my post, and ask that does this mapping somehow induce a differentiable structure on [tex]\mathbb{R}[/tex] so that [tex]f[/tex] becomes smooth?

Or perhaps the question is, that why cannot this [tex]f[/tex] induce differentiable structure in such way, assuming that the book's claim is right?
 
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The real question is this:
Consider R² with the natural differentiable structure, and C the subset of R² defined by the equation y=x^2/3. Is there a smooth manifold M and an embedding f:M-->R² whose image is C.
 
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every line through the origin of that set has intersection number ≥ 2 with the set. for a manifold, the generic intersection number will be one.
 
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Isn't the content of the posts #4 and #5 the same?
 
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mathwonk said:
every line through the origin of that set has intersection number ≥ 2 with the set. for a manifold, the generic intersection number will be one.

Well, the cusp is a smooth manifold, with smooth atlas consisting of the unique chart "projection onto the x coordinate".

jostpuur said:
Isn't the content of the posts #4 and #5 the same?

Well, it seems to me that the question in post #5 is more general than any of the 2 questions of post #4. Or perhaps they are equivalent?
 

1. Why is the cusp not a submanifold?

The cusp is not a submanifold because it does not satisfy the definition of a submanifold, which states that it must be locally diffeomorphic to Euclidean space. The cusp fails to meet this criteria because it has a singularity at the tip, making it non-smooth.

2. Can the cusp be considered a submanifold in a certain context?

In some cases, the cusp may be considered a submanifold if it is given a different smooth structure. For example, if we consider the cusp as a subset of a different space, such as complex space, it may satisfy the definition of a submanifold. However, in the standard definition of a submanifold in Euclidean space, the cusp does not qualify.

3. What is the significance of the cusp not being a submanifold?

The fact that the cusp is not a submanifold has important implications in differential geometry and topology. It highlights the importance of smoothness and the limitations of the definition of a submanifold. It also demonstrates the intricacies and complexities of studying geometric objects.

4. Are there any other geometric objects that are not submanifolds?

Yes, there are many other geometric objects that do not qualify as submanifolds. Some examples include cones, self-intersecting curves, and fractals. These objects also fail to meet the criteria of being locally diffeomorphic to Euclidean space.

5. How does the cusp affect our understanding of submanifolds?

The cusp challenges our understanding of submanifolds and reminds us that there are exceptions to every rule. It also encourages us to think more deeply about the definitions and properties of submanifolds and how they can be extended or modified to accommodate more complex geometric objects.

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