Why is the unit prefix micro pronounced as myoo instead of mu?

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The discussion revolves around the pronunciation of the unit prefix "micro," represented by the Greek symbol μ (mu), and why it is pronounced as "myoo" instead of "mu." Participants explore the linguistic and etymological aspects of the prefix, its usage in the metric system, and comparisons with other prefixes.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question why "micro" is pronounced "myoo" instead of "mu," suggesting it may relate to the nature of prefixes in the metric system.
  • Others argue that "kilo" and "centi" are not letters of an alphabet, similar to "micro," and thus should not be treated differently in pronunciation.
  • A participant points out that μ is the first letter of the Greek word "μικρv," which means "small," and questions whether "micro" can stand alone as a word in Greek.
  • There is a discussion about the use of Greek letters for SI prefixes, with some noting that μ was chosen for "micro" due to the limited letters available in English for prefixes.
  • One participant mentions that a micrometre is sometimes referred to as a "micron," adding another layer to the discussion about the term's usage.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the pronunciation and etymology of "micro." There is no consensus on whether "micro" can be considered a standalone word in Greek or solely a prefix, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these distinctions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the Greek language and the status of "micro" as a word versus a prefix, highlighting a lack of clarity on these definitions.

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Hello, :wink:

I see for micro the Greek symbol μ - mu - is used. Then why don't it pronounced mu volts etc. instead of micro volts? Tell me the reason please. Many thanks for this.

Cheers
 
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Hello PainterGuy! :smile:

Same reason we don't say "k-grams" or "c-metres" ! :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hello PainterGuy! :smile:

Same reason we don't say "k-grams" or "c-metres" ! :wink:

Hello tiny-tim, :wink:

Thanks for the comment. But kilo- or centi- are not letters of any alphabet. They are prefixes defined by the metric system society, I think. We call α alpha, not some other thing. Same can said about beta. So you see what I am trying to ask.

Cheers
 
PainterGuy said:
But kilo- or centi- are not letters of any alphabet.

Nor is "micro".

The letters k and c are short for kilo and centi, the letter µ is short for µικρv. :wink:
 
PainterGuy said:
Thanks for the comment. But kilo- or centi- are not letters of any alphabet. They are prefixes defined by the metric system society, I think. We call α alpha, not some other thing. Same can said about beta. So you see what I am trying to ask.
Micro is also a prefix defined by the SI system. There are 3 prefixes starting with m: micro, milli, and mega. There are only two english letters (m and M) available, so they used the greek letter m for the third one.

You don't say "lower-case-m-grams" instead of "milligrams" or "upper-case-m-grams" instread of "megagrams". So why should you say "mu-grams" instead of "micrograms"?
 
i believe cats pronounce it "miaow-grams"! :biggrin:

and cows:rolleyes:
 
AlephZero said:
Micro is also a prefix defined by the SI system. There are 3 prefixes starting with m: micro, milli, and mega. There are only two english letters (m and M) available, so they used the greek letter m for the third one.

You don't say "lower-case-m-grams" instead of "milligrams" or "upper-case-m-grams" instread of "megagrams". So why should you say "mu-grams" instead of "micrograms"?

Many thanks AlephZero.

I am sure I was not able to understand your reply fully. Perhaps you can help me a bit to understand it.

We say mg (milligrams), cm (centimeter), etc. "m" and "c" are the initials. Is μ (mu) initial of word micro? Is there a word "micro" in Greek? I hope my questions make it somewhat clear what is confusing me. Much grateful for this help.

Cheers
 
PainterGuy said:
Is μ (mu) initial of word micro? Is there a word "micro" in Greek?

Yes, µ is the first letter of "µικρv" (pronounced "micro"), which is Greek for "small" (similarly, "mega" is Greek for "large").

I don't know whether "µικρv" is a whole word, or only a prefix.
 
tiny-tim said:
Yes, µ is the first letter of "µικρv" (pronounced "micro"), which is Greek for "small" (similarly, "mega" is Greek for "large").

I don't know whether "µικρv" is a whole word, or only a prefix.

Hello tiny-tim,

So sorry I see you also mentioned this word or prefix also in one of the posts above. I did not understand it that time.

Now I think I understand it. My wild guess is that it's a word.:confused:

Many thanks de-confusing me.

Cheers
 
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PainterGuy said:
Now I think I understand it. My wild guess is that it's a word.:confused:

Huh?

μ is NOT a word. It is letter in the Greek alphabet (just like k and c are letters in the Roman alphabet). The Greek letter μ happens to have been chosen to be the symbol for the SI prefix micro, which means 10-6. In other words, when μ appears in front of the symbol for a unit, it means that that unit is being scaled by the power of ten implied by the corresponding SI prefix. Hence μm means micrometres, which means 10-6 metres. Just like km means kilometres, which means 103 metres.

That's it.
 
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cepheid said:
Huh?

μ is NOT a word. It is letter in the Greek alphabet (just like k and c are letters in the Roman alphabet).

Okay. Did I say 'mu' is a word? I was responding to tiny-tim's comment where he said that he doesn't know if it is a whole word or prefix. I am on my mobile so can not post any specal characters. Would request you to read my previous post again and find the highlighted word in tiny-tim's quoted post which I was commenting on. I hope it's clear now. That's it. :) Thanks for the input.

Cheers
 
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PainterGuy said:
Okay. Did I say 'mu' is a word? I was responding to tiny-tim's comment where he said that he doesn't know if it is a whole word or prefix. I am on my mobile so can not post any specal characters. Would request you to read my previous post again and find the highlighted word in tiny-tim's quoted post which I was commenting on. I hope it's clear now. That's it. :) Thanks for the input.

Cheers

Ah okay, sorry. I honestly do not know whether (in Greek) the word micro can be stand-alone, or whether it can only be used as a prefix. Certainly in English it seems to appear only as a prefix. Interestingly, a micrometre is also sometimes called a "micron."
 
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cepheid said:
Ah okay, sorry. I honestly do not know whether (in Greek) the word micro can be stand-alone, or whether it can only be used as a prefix. Certainly in English it seems to appear only as a prefix. Interestingly, a micrometre is also sometimes called a "micron."

Hello cepheid, :wink:

No problems. I did not know that about micrometer. So thanks for new information.

Cheers
 

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