Why must the hydrogen in E2 reactions be anti- and planar to the leaving group?

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The discussion centers on the requirements for hydrogen to be anti and planar to the leaving group in E2 reactions, specifically in the context of alkyl halides reacting with bases in polar, non-protic solvents. Participants explore the geometric and orbital considerations that dictate these spatial arrangements during the reaction mechanism.

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  • One participant notes that in E2 reactions, the proton removed by the base must be anti to the leaving group and that both must be periplanar, suggesting this is due to the electron coming from the backside to form a C-C double bond.
  • Another participant explains that the base withdraws the proton, causing the carbon to rehybridize from sp3 to sp2, and that the departing proton and leaving group must interact through the newly forming p orbital, requiring coplanarity.
  • A different participant raises the idea that molecular orbital orientation plays a role, specifically the overlap needed between the sigma* C-X and sigma C-H orbitals to facilitate double bond formation.
  • One participant emphasizes that the leaving group must produce a p orbital that overlaps with the adjacent carbon's newly forming p orbital, necessitating coplanarity for simultaneous reaction.
  • Another participant provides an analogy involving people in rooms to illustrate the concept of orbital overlap and the necessity of spatial arrangement during the reaction.

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Participants present multiple viewpoints regarding the geometric and orbital requirements in E2 reactions, indicating that there is no consensus on a singular explanation for why hydrogen must be anti and planar to the leaving group.

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Participants discuss various aspects of orbital overlap and molecular geometry without resolving the specific conditions or assumptions underlying their claims.

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In the presence of polar, non-protic solvents (i.e., DMSO or DMF), alkyl halides undergo reaction with bases to generate alkenes by an E2 mechanism. In the E2 reaction, the proton removed by the base must be anti- to the leaving group, and they must also be periplanar (the hydrogen, the leaving group and the two carbons must all be in the same plane). In the E2 reaction, both the alkyl halide and the base are present in the rate-limiting transition state, making the reaction bimolecular and concerted.

Now my question is why hydrogen which is removed must be anti-(trans-) and planar relative to the leaving halogen??

I have found in some books it is about electron coming from backside and forming C-C double bond. HERE what is meant by electron coming from backside.

Your sensible response will broad my understanding. Thnx in anticipation.
 
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The base withdraws the proton in the E2 mechanism. This causes the carbon to begin to rehybridize in the rate determining step from sp3 to sp2. For there to be simultaneous loss of halogen (as X+) they must be interacting by the newly rehybridizing carbon's nascent p orbital. This is the same p orbital that will eventually form the double bond. You can see from a geometrical analysis that the departing proton, nascent p-p orbital formation and halogen leaving group must be coplanar. Aligning the two p "dumbell" shaped orbitals at right angles precludes any interaction, they must be aligned head to head. The only way for this to happen is for the halogen to be either trans or eclipsed cis to the incoming base. For steric reasons the cis orientation is disfavored.
 
Isn't something about orientation of molecular orbital?, due to the overlap required beween the sigma* C-X and sigma C-H orbitals to form the double bond (which is the combination of two coplanar p orbitals)?
 
The leaving group, halogen, will produce a p orbital for overlap with the adjacent carbon's newly forming p orbital. For there to be simultaneity, these two orbitals must be aligned in a coplanar fashion.
 
Another way to think about it is that the leaving group will run off and leave a carbocation at the other end, which is then promptly taken up by the electron coming in 'the back side'- imagine people in two rooms, someone left the front room and another person replaces that person from the back room. This means there is an empty 'space' for a new person to come into the back room - this electron is the new person! That's an easy way to think about it at any rate- you can go from there! The overlapping orbitals will have an empty space which is filled up by that electron...
 

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