Yes. Murray in final at Wimbledon

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The discussion revolves around the Wimbledon final featuring Roger Federer and Andy Murray, focusing on the significance of Murray's participation as a British player and the broader context of tennis rivalries and performances.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight that Federer has won Wimbledon multiple times, questioning the use of "finally" in reference to Murray's final appearance.
  • There is a clarification regarding the distinction between English and Scottish identities, with some noting that Murray is Scottish and not English, yet he represents Britain.
  • Participants express curiosity about Murray's emotional response if he were to win Wimbledon, contrasting it with his typical demeanor during matches.
  • Some participants express enthusiasm for Agnieszka Radwańska's presence in the women's final, indicating a preference for her over other players.
  • There are mixed feelings about the significance of national identity in sports, with some joking about how Murray's identity might change based on his performance.
  • Participants reflect on the emotional impact of Murray's performance, with some expressing sympathy for his loss and acknowledging the strength of his opponent.
  • There are references to historical tennis rivalries, with some participants drawing parallels to past matches and players.
  • One participant expresses nostalgia for earlier tennis eras, noting the challenges of watching the current game due to Federer's aging.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the significance of Murray's final appearance, but there are competing views regarding national identity and emotional responses to the match outcomes. The discussion remains unresolved on some points, particularly regarding the implications of identity in sports.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect assumptions about national identity and emotional responses that may not be universally applicable. The discussion also includes references to past tennis eras and rivalries that may not be fully explored.

Who May Find This Useful

Fans of tennis, particularly those interested in the cultural and national implications of sports, as well as those following the careers of Federer and Murray.

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What do you mean "finally"? Federer has already won Wimbledon a bunch of times! :smile:
 
Has Murry? Roger Federer isn't a Brit.
 
I think he's referring to the fact that there hasn't been an English player in the men's finals in over 80 years. :smile:
 
turbo said:
I think he's referring to the fact that there hasn't been an English player in the men's finals in over 80 years. :smile:

Murray is Scottish ;) but yeah there hasn't been a British player in the final in that long
 
I wonder if Murry would smile at winning Wimbeldon, or if he'd just point at the sky in "seriously imortant epic drama" mode as usual.
 
Screw Murray, Agnieszka is in the womens final!
 
2AlphaMales?! said:
I wonder if Murry would smile at winning Wimbeldon, or if he'd just point at the sky in "seriously imortant epic drama" mode as usual.

:smile:
 
  • #10
Borek said:
Screw Murray, Agnieszka is in the womens final!
Hope this doesn't happen during the match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFvnDOUHpjg
 
  • #11
Yes, she caught a cold few days ago. Still, she was able to win semifinal, so it is not that bad.
 
  • #12
Borek said:
Screw Murray
Leave that to Federer. :-p
 
  • #13
turbo said:
I think he's referring to the fact that there hasn't been an English player in the men's finals in over 80 years. :smile:

Yeah, I know. I was attempting (and evidently failing) to make a joke about Murray's chance of winning. :smile:
 
  • #14
Am I to understand that people actually pay attention to that crap? :confused:
 
  • #15
Danger said:
Am I to understand that people actually pay attention to that crap? :confused:
Yes. And I rooting for Agnieszka over Williams. :mad:
 
  • #16
Sigh.

Sadly, I only know result, none of the televisions I can watch transmitted the match.
 
  • #17
Dang. Williams is just too strong.
 
  • #18
turbo said:
I think he's referring to the fact that there hasn't been an English player in the men's finals in over 80 years. :smile:

Kaldanis said:
Murray is Scottish ;) but yeah there hasn't been a British player in the final in that long
If Murray wins, he'll be "British."

If he loses, he's "Scottish."

But he will never, ever be "English."
 
  • #20
:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry: Murray :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
 
  • #21
Oh well. He tried his best! The only comfort I can see in this is that he did lose to probably the best player ever, but I bet it still hurts
 
  • #23
OK folks. You can get back to work for another 78 years now.
 
  • #24
That reminded me of Borg vs McEnroe.
 
  • #25
Chi Meson said:
That reminded me of Borg vs McEnroe.

Was that Seven-of-Nine or Hugh? I don't like sports, but I'd gladly watch Jeri Ryan prance about with a racquet. Jonathan del Arco, not so much...
 
  • #26
:smile::smile::smile::smile:Murry:smile::smile::smile:
 
  • #27
I truly like tennis , but it's hard to watch these days with Federer's age finally catching up with him.I started watching tennis in the 90s with Sampras and Agassi going at it but then I followed Federer from before he was winning grand slams and I don't think I'll see such a perfect player again in my lifetime.

Congrats to Murray.
 
  • #28
That means Janowicz lost only to the winner :smile:
 

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