How is the Action Minimized for an Arbitrary Lagrangian?

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The discussion revolves around minimizing the action for an arbitrary Lagrangian, specifically focusing on the mathematical formulation and the process of deriving the expression for the variation of action, δS[x(t)]. Participants are examining the implications of substituting a perturbed function into the action integral and the subsequent steps involving integration by parts.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the derivation of the variation of action and questioning the omission of the 0th order term in the expansion. There is also a discussion about the relationship between the variation notation (δ) and the differential notation (d), exploring their meanings in the context of function spaces.

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Some participants are clarifying their understanding of the mathematical concepts involved, while others are providing insights into the differences between variation and differentiation. The conversation is ongoing, with no explicit consensus reached on the nuances of the notation used.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the mathematical framework without complete clarity on certain aspects, such as the treatment of terms in the expansion and the implications of working within a function space.

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I'm reading my textbook and trying to follow the math on how to minimize the action for an arbitrary Lagrangian. The author states that the action is:
[tex] S[x(t)] = \int^{t_B}_{t_A} dt L( \dot x(t),x(t)) [/tex]

Then the author goes on to talk about finding the extrema for the action by computing [itex]\delta S[x(t)][/itex]. The author says to compute this by substituing [itex]x(t) + \delta x(t)[/itex] into the definition for the action, expanding to 1st order and integrate by parts. The text then shows this:
[tex] \delta S[x(t)] = \int^{t_B}_{t_A} dt [\frac {\partial L}{\partial \dot x(t)} \delta \dot x(t) + \frac {\partial L}{\partial x(t)} \delta x(t)] = [ \frac {\partial L}{\partial \dot x(t)} \delta x(t) ]^{t_B}_{t_A} + \int^{t_B}_{t_A} dt [ - \frac {d}{dt} \frac {\partial L}{\partial \dot x(t)} + \frac {\partial L}{\partial x(t)} ] \delta x(t)[/tex]

What I don't understand is how the author got this. If all he did was substitute and expand like he said to do, what happened to the 0th order term from the expansion? I'm also unsure how he got the right most form of the equation using integration by parts.
 
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Given a function [itex]X(t)=x(t)+\delta{x}(t)[/itex], (where x(t) is the assumed solution of the resulting diff. eq.) he is looking at the first order term of:
[tex]\bigtriangleup{S}\equiv{S}(X(t))-S(x(t))[/tex]
That first order expression is proportional to [itex]\delta{x}(t)[/itex], and is called [itex]\delta{S}(x(t))[/itex]
 
Ah, ok. That makes sense, I just wish the author had made that clear.

Thanks
 
One other question that's sort of related to the first. In this case, the author talked about a value [itex]\delta S[x(t)][/itex]. I notice that if I simpily take the first order derivative, I get something that looks exactly the same except for all the little deltas changing to d's. Is there any real difference? Or is the delta notation just to keep you from being confused as to what is being integrated?
 
Well, the variation can be regarded as a differential on A FUNCTION SPACE, rather than, say, on the real line of numbers.

It is the type of space we're working with that is different; the basic "idea" is the same.
 

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