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ehrenfest
Mar21-08, 11:02 AM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
This question refers to Kittel's solid-state physics book.

On this page, Kittel says that "each normal vibrational mode of polarization p has the form of a standing wave." I am not sure what the polarization p refers to?


2. Relevant equations



3. The attempt at a solution

genneth
Mar21-08, 09:23 PM
Well, a wave can be polarised --- solids support longitudinal waves and transverse waves. There will be two independent polarisations for the latter.

ehrenfest
Mar22-08, 03:42 AM
Can you just define what the polarization of a wave is?

malawi_glenn
Mar22-08, 05:02 AM
http://physics.unl.edu/~tsymbal/tsymbal_files/Teaching/SSP-927/Section%2005_Lattice_Vibrations.pdf

see page 5

etc. just google it

ehrenfest
Mar24-08, 05:58 PM
On Kittel page 109 second sentence, it says "Each normal vibrational mode of polarization p has the form..."

What is "p"?

malawi_glenn
Mar24-08, 06:27 PM
just an integer, n, m, k, l etc.

ehrenfest
Mar24-08, 06:58 PM
There should be uncountably many polarization modes, which means there are not enough integers to accommodate all of them. There are uncountably transverse directions, aren't there?

Also, do we know what polarization p = 1, for example, corresponds to?

genneth
Mar24-08, 08:32 PM
No --- there are two independent transverse polarisation modes. The key is the independence. The transverse modes are effectively vectors in a 2D plane.

ehrenfest
Mar24-08, 09:03 PM
So, a set of polarization modes will always be a basis for \mathbb{R}^3? And you can choose any such basis for your set of polarization modes? So, p will always be 1, 2, or 3?

ehrenfest
Mar25-08, 09:13 PM
anyone?

ehrenfest
Mar26-08, 05:12 PM
anyone?

ehrenfest
Mar26-08, 10:43 PM
Help?