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squeeky
Nov16-08, 03:20 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Use Cylindrical Coordinates.
Find the volume of the solid that the cylinder r=acos\theta cuts out of the sphere of radius a centered at the origin.
2. Relevant equations
Sphere = x2+y2+z2=a3
3. The attempt at a solution
I think that the limits are from -pi/2 to positive pi/2 for theta, 0 to acos(theta) for r, and negative (a3-r2)1/2 to positive (a3-r2)1/2. This gives me the equation:
\int^{\pi/2}_{-\pi/2}\int^{acos\theta}_0\int^{\sqrt{a^3-r^2}}_{-\sqrt{a^3-r^2}} dzrdrd\theta
Solving this, I get a volume of \frac{4\pi}{3}a^{9/2}+\frac{8}{9}a^3
But is this right?
tiny-tim
Nov17-08, 07:14 AM
Sphere = x2+y2+z2=a3
Hi squeeky! Welcome to PF! :smile:
erm … you need oiling! :biggrin: …
i know it's three-dimensional, but still …
it should be x2+y2+z2=a2 :redface:
HallsofIvy
Nov17-08, 08:21 AM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Use Cylindrical Coordinates.
Find the volume of the solid that the cylinder r=acos\theta cuts out of the sphere of radius a centered at the origin.
2. Relevant equations
Sphere = x2+y2+z2=a3
3. The attempt at a solution
I think that the limits are from -pi/2 to positive pi/2 for theta, 0 to acos(theta) for r, and negative (a3-r2)1/2 to positive (a3-r2)1/2. This gives me the equation:
\int^{\pi/2}_{-\pi/2}\int^{acos\theta}_0\int^{\sqrt{a^3-r^2}}_{-\sqrt{a^3-r^2}} dzrdrd\theta
Solving this, I get a volume of \frac{4\pi}{3}a^{9/2}+\frac{8}{9}a^3
But is this right?
No, it's not. The the graph of the equation r= acos(\theta), in polar coordinates is a circle with center at (0, a/2) and radius a/2. Since it lies only in the upper half plane, \theta ranges from 0 to \pi, not -\pi/2 to \pi/2.
tiny-tim
Nov17-08, 08:44 AM
No, it's not. The the graph of the equation r= acos(\theta), in polar coordinates is a circle with center at (0, a/2) and radius a/2.
Hi HallsofIvy! :smile:
No, that would be r = a sintheta. :wink:
HallsofIvy
Nov17-08, 10:27 AM
Oops! Well, I'll just go back and edit it so it looks like I never made that mistake!
squeeky
Nov18-08, 06:01 PM
Hi squeeky! Welcome to PF! :smile:
erm … you need oiling! :biggrin: …
i know it's three-dimensional, but still …
it should be x2+y2+z2=a2 :redface:
Ah! That's right, I don't know how I got that cube, I must have been seeing things when I looked up the formula.
And so now I get a an equation of \int^{\pi}_0\int^{acos\theta}_0\int^{\sqrt{a^2-r^2}}_{-\sqrt{a^2-r^2}}dzrdrd\theta
which (unless I did my math wrong) gives me a somewhat nice value of V=(\frac{2a^3}{3})(\frac{4}{3}-\pi)
Is this right now?
tiny-tim
Nov18-08, 06:19 PM
And so now I get a an equation of \int^{\pi}_0\int^{acos\theta}_0\int^{\sqrt{a^2-r^2}}_{-\sqrt{a^2-r^2}}dzrdrd\theta
which (unless I did my math wrong) gives me a somewhat nice value of V=(\frac{2a^3}{3})(\frac{4}{3}-\pi)
Is this right now?
yes, that looks right …
except doesn't theta go from -π/2 to π/2, as in your original post? :smile:
squeeky
Nov18-08, 09:01 PM
yes, that looks right …
except doesn't theta go from -π/2 to π/2, as in your original post? :smile:
That's what I thought at first, but HallsofIvy pointed out that it's actually from 0 to pi. Was I right at first then? Because it does make more sense to me if it is from -pi/2 to pi/2, since I see the limits as lying in the xz-plane.
tiny-tim
Nov19-08, 04:25 AM
Was I right at first then? Because it does make more sense to me if it is from -pi/2 to pi/2, since I see the limits as lying in the xz-plane.
Yes! :biggrin:
The circle has centre (a/2,0) …
for example, the point (0,1) obviously doesn't lie on it. :wink:
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