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garibaldi
Mar12-09, 09:56 PM
Hey everyone,

Im currently reading Horowitz & Hill and am a little confused on the topic of the intrinsic emitter resistance (re). I understand that this resistance is essentially the dynamic resistance of the base-emitter diode.

I assumed that when analyzing a circuit this resistance should always be placed in series with the emitter. However H&H seem to place this resistance from the emitter to ground in the emitter followers they demonstrate.

In the case of the emitter follower circuit this makes sense because the low re means that the circuit will have a low output resistance as expected. I just dont understand why they placed it to ground.

The circuits in question are attached.

The Electrician
Mar12-09, 10:19 PM
What makes you think that the resistors from emitter to ground shown in the images are re, the intrinsic emitter resistance? They aren't labeled re.

Averagesupernova
Mar12-09, 10:44 PM
I think you mean r'e or pronounced 'R prime E' or 'R E prime'. Summarized, R'e is the AC impedance of the base emitter junction. Normally the output imedance of an emitter follower is Re (actual resistor from emitter to ground) in parallel with [(beta*the base circuit impedance) + r'e].

The Electrician
Mar12-09, 11:36 PM
You say:

"Normally the output imedance of an emitter follower is Re (actual resistor from emitter to ground) in parallel with [(beta*the base circuit impedance) + r'e]."

Shouldn't the "(beta*the base circuit impedance)" expression be something more like "(the base circuit impedance/beta)"? Actually, I think the "beta" should be "beta+1".

Averagesupernova
Mar13-09, 08:30 AM
You say:

"Normally the output imedance of an emitter follower is Re (actual resistor from emitter to ground) in parallel with [(beta*the base circuit impedance) + r'e]."

Shouldn't the "(beta*the base circuit impedance)" expression be something more like "(the base circuit impedance/beta)"? Actually, I think the "beta" should be "beta+1".

Yes, my bad.

Bob S
Mar13-09, 10:19 AM
It is usually a good idea to have a pull-down resistor on the emitter output to keep the output potential from floating up to the base potential when the external load is not connected. It is absolutely necessary if the external load does not have a dc path to ground.