BJT transistor analysis: common emitter confusion

In summary: Of course, that is impossible. So, the BJT is not operated in the active region where the beta-value holds..In summary, the conversation discusses the use of BJT transistors as electronic switches and the calculation of collector current in a common emitter configuration. The beta value, which represents the current gain in this configuration, is explained and used in calculations. However, the inconsistency in results leads to the realization that the BJT is not operating in the active region and the maximum collector current is limited by the resistor and voltage supply.
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thegreengineer
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Recently I started studying semiconductors and analogue electronics. First I studied the diode and its I-V characteristics and analysis in DC circuits, as well as in AC circuits.
Now I started with BJT transistors. I was explained that transistors act as electronic switches. My problem is not on how transistors work. For explaining this further consider this diagram of a transistor in common emitter configuration.
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In this case I got two DC voltage sources of 9 V each, the two 330 Ω resistors, and a NPN BJT transistor. The transistor has a β=210.
According to what I was taught, β represents the current gain in common emitter and it ranges from 50 to 400 (it is a dimensionless quantity). The current gain represents the ratio of output current divided by input current. In this configuration, the emitter is common to the input and output sides (connected to ground). The input is the one p-n junction that is direct biased; whereas the output is the other p-n junction that is reverse biased. So, according to this, the input current is the base current and the output current is the collector current. So using the gain (β) definition, we have:
[itex]\beta =\frac{I_{C}}{I_{B}}[/itex].
I previously said that β=210. So if I replace β in the equation and I isolate for collector current I get that the collector current is 210 times the base current.

So let's suppose that the I'm being asked to calculate the collector current considering the circuit above. What I did was the following, since I don't know base current, I don't know collector current either. So what I did is performing KVL (Kirchoff's Voltage Law) on the mesh formed by the 9 V battery, the 330 Ω resistor (both connected in series to the base) and the p-n junction created by the base-emitter junction. This last one, as I was told, resembles a silicon diode, therefore there's going to be a voltage drop of 0.7 V approximately. Doing this I get:

[itex]\sum V=9-330(I_{B})-0.7=0[/itex]

When I isolate for base current, I get:
[itex]I_{B}=0.02515[/itex] measured in Amps.

Remember I said that β=210, so using the previous definition for β I get:
[itex]I_{C}=\beta I_{B}=(210)0.02515=5.28[/itex] measured in Amps.

When I checked back the circuit and ran the simulator I got the base current correctly:
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Since 0.02515 A= 25.15 mA.
However, when I checked the collector current I got a very different result, way less the current I calculated:
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My question is, if the result is not consistent, then that means I did something wrong, what is it?
 
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Look at the collector resistor and battery. Why would you expect 5+ amps through that resistor? What is the voltage across the resistor in the simulation given 27.24mA? Where does this voltage come from?

BoB
 
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Marcus - you simply have assumed that the BJT would operate in the so-called "active" amplifying region (where the beta-value may be used).. But that is not the case.
Do you know why not?.
 
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No. Why not?
 
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Notice that Rc resistor and DC collector voltage (Vcc) will limit the maximum current that can flow in collector. The maximum collector that can flow in this circuit is Ic_max = 9V/330Ω = 0.027A = 27mA. So in this case the BJT is in saturation region and Ic = β * Ib do not hold anymore.
The BJT is just like a water tap. What is happening is that the base current is "controlling" the amount of current that Vcc supplies (can supply). Try increase in simulation Vcc voltage (2000V) or reduce Rc resistor value or increase the RB value .
 
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For Ic=5.28A, the voltage drop at the collector resistor can be calculated (theoretically) to Vc=5.28*330=1742 Volt!
 

1. What is a BJT transistor?

A BJT (bipolar junction transistor) is a type of transistor that is commonly used in electronic circuits. It consists of three layers of a semiconductor material, with each layer having a different type of doping. The three layers are called the emitter, base, and collector. BJTs are used for amplifying or switching electronic signals.

2. What is common emitter configuration in BJT transistor analysis?

The common emitter configuration is one of the three basic configurations for using a BJT transistor. In this configuration, the emitter terminal is connected to a common ground, while the input signal is applied to the base terminal and the output is taken from the collector terminal. It is commonly used for amplification purposes.

3. What is the difference between common emitter and common collector configurations?

In common emitter configuration, the input signal is applied to the base terminal, while in common collector configuration, the input signal is applied to the emitter terminal. Additionally, in common emitter, the output is taken from the collector terminal, while in common collector, the output is taken from the emitter terminal. This results in different voltage and current gains for each configuration.

4. How do you calculate the current gain (beta) of a BJT transistor in common emitter configuration?

The current gain (beta) of a BJT in common emitter configuration can be calculated by dividing the output current (collector current) by the input current (base current). It is usually denoted by the symbol "β" and is an important parameter in analyzing and designing BJT circuits.

5. What is the role of load line in BJT transistor analysis?

The load line in BJT transistor analysis is used to determine the operating point of the transistor on its characteristic curve. It is a straight line that represents the relationship between the collector current and collector-emitter voltage. The intersection of the load line with the characteristic curve gives the operating point, which is important for calculating the voltage and current gains of the transistor.

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