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heardie
Jun9-04, 12:47 AM
This is (another!) question I cannot solve
The ground state wavefunction for the harmonic oscillator can be written as
$\chi _0 = \left( {\frac{\alpha }
{\pi }} \right)^{\frac{1}
{4}} \exp \left( {\frac{{ - \alpha x^2 }}
{2}} \right)$


where $\alpha = \sqrt {\frac{{mk}}
{{\hbar ^2 }}} $


We are then asked to apply the rasing operator:
d/dy-y

where $y = \sqrt \alpha x$

First of all, does this mean replace all alphas, and x's with y's? (Is it even possible to get rid of all x's? I end up with a y/x in there), and then apply
d(chi)/dy-y*chi
Is that what the operator is doing? I don't see the significane of the answer. If I apply the lowering operator (d/dy + y) I still get 'an' answer, when I figure I should get something to tell me I can't go lower then the groud state (a zero perhaps, or a mathematical impossibility like division by zero)

Anyway...if anyone can shed some light on this it would eb much appreciated!

Edit: I cant figure out division on this board! I swear to god I am doing it right...I will post my operator down here...if someone can point out the latex error I'd love to know:
\[
\frac{d}
{{dy}} - y
\]

heardie
Jun9-04, 01:04 AM
I swear my equations are printing in the wrong order above. For reference:
Raising operator - d/dy - y
where y = sqrt(alpha)*x

Oh and I get
-1/2\,{\frac {{e^{-1/2\,\alpha\,{x}^{2}}} \left( -1+4\,\alpha\,{x}^{2}
\right) }{x\sqrt [4]{\alpha\,\pi }}}


Is this the first excited state? Pretty sure I would have made an error somewhere there!

heardie
Jun9-04, 06:32 AM
Dont worry. Completly missed something here. All makes sesnse now. Can I delete this thread somehow?