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zetafunction
May30-09, 09:25 AM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
the idea is to prove wether a prime 'p' divides the quantities {p \choose k}
for k=01,2,3,....,p-1
2. Relevant equations
3. The attempt at a solution
i have tried by inspection for small primes 3,5,7,11,13,17,...... but can not guess a simple solution , the idea is to see if for p prime , the Cyclotomic polynomial
x^{p}+..........+x+1 for p prime.
slider142
May30-09, 11:25 AM
Trying more general circumstances, where p is any prime, we get the simpler question of whether the product (p-1)...(p-n) is divisible by n+1 for all n <= p - 1.
Ie., for n = 1, we question whether p-1 is divisible by 2, which is trivial. (p-1)(p-2) divisibility by 3 can be seen as well with a little more care.
There is a basic divisibility theorem about these products that you may have already proven earlier. If not, it is not difficult to prove by a little inspection.
tiny-tim
May30-09, 12:06 PM
Hi zetafunction! :smile:
the idea is to prove wether a prime 'p' divides the quantities {p \choose k}
for k=01,2,3,....,p-1
If p is prime, how can it not divide pCk (except for k = 0) …
there's a p on the top, and nothing larger than p-1 on the bottom. :redface:
slider142
May30-09, 12:44 PM
Hi zetafunction! :smile:
If p is prime, how can it not divide pCk (except for k = 0) …
there's a p on the top, and nothing larger than p-1 on the bottom. :redface:
This question may only be trivial in retrospect. ;) The quotient \frac{(r-1)!}{(r-k)!k!} trivially simplifies to \frac{(r-1)\cdots(r-k-1)}{k!} which depends on k! successfully dividing the product on the top. This is not generally true when r is not prime. Ie., 8 does not divide 8C4.
It is then up to the OP to show why this is true for primes, but not necessarily composites.
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