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wasteofo2
Jul8-04, 11:09 PM
Well? Is something like a shirt considered a solid, even though it can easily take the shape of it's container?

Janitor
Jul8-04, 11:28 PM
My instincts say 'solid.' Thin gold leaf is likewise very flexible, but also solid in my book.

GoneRogue
Jul9-04, 12:46 AM
Think of it this way, if you try to cram a shirt, or any material, in a container there will still be air pockets, thus not complete conformity. Also, the molecules of cloth are locked and cannot freely move about and slide past each other. Vote: Solid

thunderfvck
Jul9-04, 04:39 AM
Solid!

A liquid is free flowing.

Here's a brain buster:

Smoke, a solid, or liquid, or gas?

OUUU. This one is rather interesting!

rayjohn01
Jul9-04, 06:57 AM
Well I vote a complex malleable porous solid.

Gokul43201
Jul9-04, 07:42 AM
Cloth is most definitely solid.

Smoke is primarily composed of micron sized carbon particles - these are solid.

Njorl
Jul9-04, 07:43 AM
Smoke is solid. It is tiny solid particles suspended in air.

I suppose there could be liquid smoke - a by-product of combustion that takes the form of tiny liquid droplets suspended in air, but I am not familiar with anything that would produce it.

Gasses could never be considered smoke, since all gasses are infinitely miscible.

Njorl

Monique
Jul9-04, 08:41 AM
More precisely smoke is a colloid: mixture of solid and gas or liquid and gas, basically a mixture of components in different phases.

Example of liquid smoke: steam coming out of the tea cooker :tongue2: basically a mist (mist is a colloid).

Gokul43201
Jul11-04, 12:28 PM
Addressing the original question, the ability to take the shape of the container is a poor way to characterize the state of matter. The distinction is made on the basis of inter-atomic/inter-molecular interactions. The strength of these interactions is manifest in macroscopic properties such as viscosity.

Monique
Jul11-04, 12:36 PM
Well? Is something like a shirt considered a solid, even though it can easily take the shape of it's container?
What happens if the container is bigger than the shirt.. it won't take take the shape of the container..

Tiiba
Jul12-04, 10:16 AM
I suppose there could be liquid smoke - a by-product of combustion that takes the form of tiny liquid droplets suspended in air, but I am not familiar with anything that would produce it.
Hydrogen in oxygen?