Solving a Physics Question: Truck vs Car at the Lights

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a truck and a car at a traffic light. The truck is traveling at a constant speed while the car accelerates from rest when the light turns green. The goal is to determine how close the truck comes to the car and the distance the car travels when this occurs.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the use of position-time graphs and equations of motion to analyze the scenario. There are attempts to calculate the time it takes for each vehicle to reach certain points and the distances traveled during that time. Some participants express uncertainty about the best method to find the closest distance between the two vehicles.

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Several participants have provided calculations and insights into the problem, with one participant suggesting a method to find the time when the car's velocity equals that of the truck. There is acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem, and participants are actively engaging in exploring different approaches without reaching a consensus.

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There are corrections regarding the distances traveled by the car at certain times, indicating that participants are checking assumptions and clarifying details as they progress through the problem.

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Hello,

I'm having some difficulty in a physics question.

The question is:
To save fuel, some truck drivers try to maintain a constant speed when possible. A truck traveling at 81.0 km/h approaches a car stopped at the red light. When the truck is 94.6 meters from the car the light turns green and the car immediately begins to accelerate at 2.80 m/s^2 to a final speed of 117.0 km/hr. How close does the truck come to the car assuming the truck does not slow down? How far from the stop light has the car traveled when the truck reaches its closest distance?

My answer so far:
First thing I did, I drew a position time graph with the car beginning its acceleration at the origin and the origin being when the light turns green. The truck's constant speed intercepts the position axis at -94.6 m.

Truck arrives at the lights: when t = 4.20 s
(The Eqn of the truck is y = 22.5x - 94.6)
Therefore the car is 25 m away from the lights when the truck arrives at the lights. (d = 1/2at^2)

The car reaches its final velocity (17.0 km/h or 32.5 m/s) 1450 m away from the lights. Or about 32.5 seconds after the light turns green.


I'm not sure on how to figure out how close the car gets. I started a table and calculated when each vehicle was at different time points, but this is getting time consuming and I am sure there is a simpler way.

Thanks for the assistance, any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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**Correction: The car reaches its final velocity when it is 1480 m away from the lights. (not 1450 m)
 
pulau_tiga said:
Hello,

I'm having some difficulty in a physics question.

The question is:
To save fuel, some truck drivers try to maintain a constant speed when possible. A truck traveling at 81.0 km/h approaches a car stopped at the red light. When the truck is 94.6 meters from the car the light turns green and the car immediately begins to accelerate at 2.80 m/s^2 to a final speed of 117.0 km/hr. How close does the truck come to the car assuming the truck does not slow down? How far from the stop light has the car traveled when the truck reaches its closest distance?

My answer so far:
First thing I did, I drew a position time graph with the car beginning its acceleration at the origin and the origin being when the light turns green. The truck's constant speed intercepts the position axis at -94.6 m.

Truck arrives at the lights: when t = 4.20 s
(The Eqn of the truck is y = 22.5x - 94.6)
Therefore the car is 25 m away from the lights when the truck arrives at the lights. (d = 1/2at^2)

The car reaches its final velocity (17.0 km/h or 32.5 m/s) 1450 m away from the lights. Or about 32.5 seconds after the light turns green.


I'm not sure on how to figure out how close the car gets. I started a table and calculated when each vehicle was at different time points, but this is getting time consuming and I am sure there is a simpler way.

Thanks for the assistance, any help would be greatly appreciated.

I think you need to calculate the distance of the accelerating car when it reaches a velocity that is equal to that of the truck. v =at so we get for this the following : for the car : 22.5(in meter per seconds)=2.8*t so t = 8. Now suppose the car starts in x = 0 then the distance after 8 seconds is via
x = at²/2 : x = 89.6 meters.

In eight seconds the truck does x = vt : x = 180 meters starting from where the truck was when the car was at rest. So 94.6 meters behind the car. from the zero-point (the point where the car started to move) the truck has done a distance of 180 - 94.5 = 85.5 meters and the car has done 89.6 meters so the closest distance must be 89.6 - 85.5 = 4.1 meters.

this is the closest distance because after the eight seconds the car will have a velocity that exceeds the one of the truck, thus the car will drive away from the truck...

marlon
 
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Thank you so much, Marlon.
It was greatly appreciated.
 
pulau_tiga said:
Thank you so much, Marlon.
It was greatly appreciated.


My pleasure...keep on asking if you wish...

marlonissimo
 

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