Solve x=ytan(y): Analytical Technique Needed

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation x = y tan(y), where x is given as an independent variable and the goal is to find y. The context suggests a connection to boundary conditions in a corrugated waveguide.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss numerical methods as a potential solution but express interest in analytical techniques. Some suggest approximating tan(y) using Taylor series, while others propose graphical analysis to understand the behavior of the solutions.

Discussion Status

There are various approaches being explored, including the use of Taylor series and the Lagrange inversion theorem. Participants are sharing insights and suggestions, but there is no explicit consensus on a single method to solve the equation analytically.

Contextual Notes

One participant notes the desire for exact solutions, while another mentions having already created graphical plots to understand the function's behavior. The discussion reflects a mix of analytical and numerical perspectives, with some uncertainty about the best approach to take.

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I am trying to solve x=ytan(y)

x is an independent function of which I know the value. I wish to solve for y.

I can do this numerically. But I was really hoping someone out there had seen an analytical technique.

Anyone?
 
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Hi H_man!:smile:
H_man said:
I can do this numerically.

Sorry, numerically is the only way. :redface:

(But why do you want to solve it at all? It presumably isn't from trigonometry. :confused:)
 
It's to match the boundary conditions of a corrugated waveguide.

I guess I'll just have to do it the messy way :-(

Thanks tiny-tim
 
You can always approximate tan(y) by a couple of terms in its Taylor Expansion ;]
 
Do you need the actual solutions or just need to get an idea of how they behave? If it's the latter, you can analyze the equation graphically.
 
well, maybe you could expand the Taylor series for ytan(y) and then find the inverse of this function using Lagrange inversion theorem and see if the series obtained for the inverse function has a positive radius of convergence? That's one way.
 
Hi Vela, I'm looking for exact solutions, I've already produced pretty graphical plots to get the general idea.

Hi AdrianZ, before your post I'd never heard of the Lagrange inversion theorem. I will try this method and let you know if it succeeds.

Thank you both for your suggestions.
 

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