Finding the inside angle using trigonometry

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The discussion revolves around a trigonometry problem involving a conical pendulum. The original poster seeks to find the inside angle of a pendulum and subsequently the tension in the string, given the mass of the sphere and the length of the string.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use the sine function to find the angle but questions whether they need to calculate the hypotenuse first. Other participants clarify the role of the string length as the hypotenuse and discuss the relationship between the components of the forces acting on the sphere.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the geometry involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of dynamics to find tension, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to calculating the angle or the subsequent steps.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the definitions of the sides of the triangle formed by the pendulum's motion, as well as the application of trigonometric functions in this context. The original poster is working under the constraints of a homework assignment.

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I'm new to trigonometry, but I think I know the basics - soh cah toa ect. If I want to find the angle of the pendulum first then I need to do:

Sin-1 * (opp / hyp)

However I haven't got the hypotenuse, but the adjacent. So am I right to firstly work out the hypotenuse by opposite2 + adjacent2 = hypotenuse2 and then square rooting the the anwer?

Or is there a simpler way I can calculate the inside angle without having to do that first?

The question I've been set for tonights homework is;

A 500g sphere is hung from an inextensible string 1.25m long and swings around to form a conical pendulum. The sphere move in a circular horizontal path of radious 0.75m Find the tension in the string.

Once I have the correct inside should I do the following:

t = mg/cos theta

t = ( 0.5 * 0.75) / cos theta

Thanks all :)
 
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What hypothenuse are u talking about?The only one i can imagine is the string itself and it is given...1.25m...

Do you mean the one in the vector triangle??That is the weight of the sphere and is given as well...

Daniel.
 
Hi Daniel,

I don't think that its a vector triangle (we haven't covered that so I'm 99% sure that it isn't) so the 1.25m for the length is the same for the hypothenuse because its the same length - only its displaced to the side. right?

So if the hyp is 1.25 then to find the inside angle I need to do;

sin-1 * (0.75/1.25)

= 36.86989765
= 37degrees (rounded)

then do I do as I said in the original post, to find t?
 
The angle is okay...Then apply the second law of dynamics for the sphere and project it on the direction of the string...

Daniel.
 
Hi Dexter,

Thanks for your help.

Is the next part;

T = mg
cos 37

T = 0.5*9.8
cos 37

T = 4.9
0.798

T = 6.14N

Matt
 

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