Help with Delta Function & Spherical Electrostatic Potential

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The discussion revolves around the electrostatic potential of a spherically symmetrical object, specifically how to derive the charge density in spherical coordinates and the role of the Dirac Delta function in representing singularities within this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the electrostatic potential and seeks assistance in finding the charge density, expressing uncertainty about the use of the Dirac Delta function for singularities.
  • Another participant suggests computing the charge density first before determining the necessity of a Delta function.
  • A different participant proposes a method to identify the presence of a Delta function by integrating the electric field over a sphere and analyzing the total charge as the radius approaches zero.
  • Another contribution discusses the theoretical basis for a Delta function in relation to a 1/r potential, referencing the behavior of potentials generated by point charges and suggesting that the singularity at r=0 corresponds to a Delta function.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity and identification of the Dirac Delta function in this context, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the specific conditions under which the charge density is derived and the implications of the potential's singular behavior at r=0.

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Hello,
I'm having trouble with the following problem:
The spherically symmetrical electrostatic potential of a particular object is given (in spherical coordinates) by:
[tex]V(\vec{r})=V(r)=c\frac{exp{(\frac{-2r}{a})}}{4\pi\varepsilon r} (1+\frac{r}{a})[/tex]
I found the electrostatic field in spherical coords (I think it's right),
[tex]\vec{E}(\ver{r})=\frac{c}{4 \pi \varepsilon} (\frac{2}{a r} +\frac{1}{r^2} +\frac{2}{a^2}) exp(\frac{-2 r}{a})\hat{r}[/tex]
Now I'm looking for the charge density [itex]\rho(\vec{r})[/itex] in spherical coords.
My problem is with representing the singularities with the Dirac Delta function.
I'm not sure how to do this.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
 
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Compute [itex]\rho[/itex] first and then we shall see whether a delta-Dirac is necessary.

Daniel.
 
I got
[tex]\rho=\frac{-c}{r \pi a^2} (r-a+1) exp(\frac{-2 r}{a})[/tex]
Will this need a Delta Function?
 
This looks like a hydrogen atom type charge density?
An easy way to find a delta function is to guess at where it is, integrate the E field over a sphere of radius r around it.. that will tell you the total charge inside the sphere as a function of r.. then take the limit as r goes to zero.. if that doesn't go zero, then you must have a point charge at the center of the sphere.
 
Go back to basics. A 1/r potential, being generated by a point charge of unit magnitude, is a green's function, and its source is represented by a delta function -- in this case delta(r). As r->0 your potential goes like 1/r, so there's a delta function. for practical purposes, del squared(1/r) = - delta(r) -- there could be a few 2pi s I've missed). With the chain rule, that's all you need. (Also see Jackson, or any E&M or Boundary Values or Potential Theory or...)

Regards,
Reilly Atkinson
 

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