I Ching: The Cook - Finding & Translations for Eastern Scholars

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The discussion revolves around the I Ching, specifically seeking insights on finding the book and recommendations for translations, particularly for Eastern scholars. The conversation touches on various interpretations and uses of the I Ching, including its relation to other philosophical texts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in reading the I Ching and seeks recommendations for translations suitable for Eastern scholars.
  • Another participant humorously questions the appropriateness of the forum for this topic.
  • Several participants engage in light-hearted banter about the term "I Ching," with jokes and puns that deviate from the main topic.
  • A participant mentions having read the I Ching at a young age and questions if the original poster is interested in fortune telling.
  • One participant suggests that understanding the I Ching may require some knowledge of Taoism and references classic translations by Richard Wilhelm and Joseph Legge.
  • Another participant shares personal experiences with the I Ching and Tarot, suggesting a preference for the I Ching as an oracle.
  • Some participants challenge the relevance of discussing the I Ching in a physics forum, questioning beliefs in superstition.
  • There are references to other philosophical texts, such as the Tao Te Ching and Sun Tsu's Art of War, as potentially valuable reads.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple competing views, particularly regarding the relevance of the I Ching to the forum's focus and the validity of its use as an oracle. There is no consensus on the appropriateness of discussing the I Ching in this context.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express skepticism about the I Ching's association with superstition, indicating a divide in perspectives on its philosophical value versus its perceived mystical qualities.

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I'm interested in reading this book, can anyone tell me how they found it, and (more paticularly) for any eastern scholars, what the best translations of it are.
 
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Wrong forum?
 
Personally, I never ching.
 
I Wang Chung occasionally.
 
I ching, you ching, we all ching for _____________

(OK guys, fill in the blank!)
 
I read it when I was 14, I barely remember anything. Are you planning to start fortune telling?
 
I Ching - "Book of Changes"

There is a reasonably good discussion on Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching

To understand I Ching, I would suggest learning something of Taoism. - http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/gthursby/taoism/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism

Translations by Richard Wilhelm (edited by Cary Baynes) or Joseph Legge are the classic ones in English.

On-line translation of I Ching (attributed to Wilhelm) - http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/gthursby/taoism/ichingtx.htm
 
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Thank you astronuc.

Ok guys NOW you can hijack the thread.
 
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HHHHmmmnnn...I Ching...you really shouldn't scratch or it will get worse.


Seriously, from Astronuc's web pages, definitely check out the Tao Te Ching by Lao Tsu. Its a rather small volume that easily fits in your back pocket, but its full of great verse and serious thought. Sun Tsu's Art of War is another classic, less on religious practice and more on approaches to life obstacles, business, etc. Many business schools have this as suggested reading. If you get further into martial arts philosophy, check out Miyamoto Musashi's Book of Five Rings, a classic on swordsmanship and combat philosophy. More recent texts like Zen in the Martial Arts and Living the Martial Way are also good reads.
 
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Smurf said:
Thank you astronuc.

Ok guys NOW you can hijack the thread.

I'm very sorry. I couldn't help myself. :rolleyes:
 
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I started using the I ching years ago, and then learned Tarot. I ended up throwing away my tarot cards...but my roommate bacame interested in them lately. So instead I'm teaching her about the I ching. I'ts really a better system I think than tarot but I might be wrong. You have to try some to know which you prefer. But the drawback to that is it's less time getting really good with one system which is what REALLY pays off. It's not a game though, it's definitely an oracle.
 
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wow. you do realize that you are at the physicsforum not the psychicsforum right?
Don't you know it's bad luck to believe in superstition?
 
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I've been working on that joke for years, I've just about got it right I think. It started with "I'm aquarius so I don't believe in stuff like that" (speaking about horoscopes)
 
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tribdog said:
wow. you do realize that you are at the physicsforum not the psychicsforum right?
Don't you know it's bad luck to believe in superstition?
Hey, the guy woke up a thread that was dead for over a year. I'm convinced!
 
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Necroposting. Almost as much fun as necrophilia, but legal in Morrowind!
 
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tribdog said:
I've been working on that joke for years, I've just about got it right I think. It started with "I'm aquarius so I don't believe in stuff like that" (speaking about horoscopes)
When you put two jokes in there at once, it seems like you are trying too hard. Try holding the second for a later post.
 
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russ_watters said:
When you put two jokes in there at once, it seems like you are trying too hard. Try holding the second for a later post.
what kind of attention span do you think I have? later posts?
 
  • #19
Astronuc said:
There is a reasonably good discussion on Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching

The trigrams looks like an excellent way to figure out what you're going to do on a free day.
 

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