Finding the Angles: A Trigonometric Problem

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The discussion revolves around finding all angles from 0° to 360° that satisfy the equation involving the tangent function: tan(x - 30°) - tan(50°) = 0. The subject area is trigonometry, specifically focusing on the properties and identities of the tangent function.

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  • Participants explore various approaches to manipulate the tangent equation, including rewriting tan(x - 30°) in terms of tan(50°) and applying tangent identities. Some express uncertainty about how to proceed, while others provide hints and partial derivations.

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The discussion includes attempts to derive expressions for tan(x) and explore potential solutions. Some participants have provided hints and partial solutions, while others are still grappling with the initial steps. There is a mix of exploration and clarification regarding the tangent function and its periodicity.

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Participants note the periodic nature of the tangent function, suggesting that multiple solutions may exist within the specified range. There is also mention of the need to consider the range of angles when applying the periodicity of the tangent function.

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Find all the angles from [tex]0^{\circ}[/tex] to [tex]360^{\circ}[/tex] inclusive which satisfy the equation
[tex]$ \tan(x-30^{\circ}) - \tan 50^{\circ} = 0[/tex]
 
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I haven't done anything. I don't have a clue what to do.
 
Here's a hint: write tan (x - 30) in terms of tan (50). What can you see then?
 
[tex]\tan(\alpha + \beta) = \frac{tan(\alpha)+\tan(\beta)}{1-\tan(\alpha)\tan(\beta)}[/tex]

[tex]\tan(x - 30) = \frac{tan(x)+\tan(-30)}{1-\tan(x)\tan(-30)}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{tan(x)+\tan(-30)}{1-\tan(x)\tan(-30)}=\tan(50)[/tex]

[tex]\tan(x)+\tan(-30)=\tan(50) - \tan(x)\tan(-30)\tan(50)[/tex]

[tex]\tan(x) + \tan(x) \tan(-30)\tan(50)=\tan(50) - \tan(-30)[/tex]

[tex]\tan(x)(1 +\tan(-30)\tan(50))=\tan(50) - \tan(-30)[/tex]

[tex]\tan(x)=\frac{\tan(50) - \tan(-30)}{1 +\tan(-30)\tan(50)}[/tex]

:devil: :biggrin:
 
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Don't know :rolleyes:
 
[tex]\tan(x-30^{\circ}) = \tan 50^{\circ}[/tex]

Can you go from there?
 
Kahsi said:
[tex]\tan(\alpha + \beta) = \frac{tan(\alpha)+\tan(\beta)}{1-\tan(\alpha)\tan(\beta)}[/tex]

[tex]\tan(x - 30) = \frac{tan(x)+\tan(-30)}{1-\tan(x)\tan(-30)}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{tan(x)+\tan(-30)}{1-\tan(x)\tan(-30)}=\tan(50)[/tex]

[tex]\tan(x)+\tan(-30)=\tan(50) - \tan(x)\tan(-30)\tan(50)[/tex]

[tex]\tan(x) + \tan(x) \tan(-30)\tan(50)=\tan(50) - \tan(-30)[/tex]

[tex]\tan(x)(1 +\tan(-30)\tan(50))=\tan(50) - \tan(-30)[/tex]

[tex]\tan(x)=\frac{\tan(50) - \tan(-30)}{1 +\tan(-30)\tan(50)}[/tex]

:devil: :biggrin:

How did you get all that?? :confused:
 
Kahsi said:
[tex]\tan(\alpha + \beta) = \frac{tan(\alpha)+\tan(\beta)}{1-\tan(\alpha)\tan(\beta)}[/tex]

[tex]\tan(x - 30) = \frac{tan(x)+\tan(-30)}{1-\tan(x)\tan(-30)}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{tan(x)+\tan(-30)}{1-\tan(x)\tan(-30)}=\tan(50)[/tex]

[tex]\tan(x)+\tan(-30)=\tan(50) - \tan(x)\tan(-30)\tan(50)[/tex]

[tex]\tan(x) + \tan(x) \tan(-30)\tan(50)=\tan(50) - \tan(-30)[/tex]

[tex]\tan(x)(1 +\tan(-30)\tan(50))=\tan(50) - \tan(-30)[/tex]

[tex]\tan(x)=\frac{\tan(50) - \tan(-30)}{1 +\tan(-30)\tan(50)}[/tex]

:devil: :biggrin:



:smile: It's not that complex:

[tex]\tan (x - 30) = \tan 50[/tex]

Hence to work out an initial value just apply arctan on both sides to get:

[tex]x - 30 = 50[/tex]
 
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There are two solutions to the problem, that is one of them.
 
  • #11
since the Tan curve goes in a period of 180 degrees, you take the value that you got as one of the solutions and add or subtract 180 to/from it, and every time the result is within the rang of 0 -360, so:

you do
[tex]\tan (x - 30) = \tan 50[/tex]
[tex]x = 80[/tex]

then

[tex]80 \pm 180n = x[/tex]

and the only other value that fits into the range is when

[tex]n = 1[/tex]
[tex]80 + 180 = 260[/tex]

Therefor the 2 answers are

[tex]x = 80, 260[/tex]
 
  • #12
Nylex said:
[tex]\tan(x-30^{\circ}) = \tan 50^{\circ}[/tex]

Can you go from there?
Yup. Thanks!
 
  • #13
Zurtex said:
:smile: It's not that complex:
Hence my smilies
:wink:
 
  • #14
Kahsi said:
Hence my smilies
:wink:

Which if you expand is:

[tex]\frac{\tan(50) - \tan(-30)}{1 +\tan(-30)\tan(50)}= \frac{8 \cos^7 (10) \sin (10) - 56 \cos^5 (10) \sin^3 (10) + 56 \cos^3 (10) \sin^5 (10) - 8 \cos (10) \sin^7 (10)}{\cos^8(10) - 28 \cos^6(10) \sin^2(10) + 70 \cos^4(10) \sin^4(10) - 28 \cos^2 (10) \sin^6(10) + \sin^8 (10)}[/tex]

And it just so happens that nicely simplifies down to:

[tex]\frac{8 \cos^7 (10) \sin (10) - 56 \cos^5 (10) \sin^3 (10) + 56 \cos^3 (10) \sin^5 (10) - 8 \cos (10) \sin^7 (10)}{\cos^8(10) - 28 \cos^6(10) \sin^2(10) + 70 \cos^4(10) \sin^4(10) - 28 \cos^2 (10) \sin^6(10) + \sin^8 (10)} = \tan (80)[/tex]

:rolleyes:
 

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