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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the motion of a canoe under the influence of a decelerating force. The original poster seeks assistance in determining the distance traveled by the canoe as its velocity decreases from 10 m/s to 5 m/s and then to a complete stop.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive a function for velocity over time and expresses confusion about how to proceed with the calculations. Some participants suggest integrating a separable ordinary differential equation (ODE) and provide hints towards solving it.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering guidance on the mathematical approach. The original poster expresses gratitude for the hints received, indicating progress in understanding the problem. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the original calculations presented.

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The original poster clarifies that this problem is not part of current homework but rather a lingering question from earlier studies. There is also mention of specific initial conditions that need to be applied to the mathematical solution.

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Hi,
I just want to ask you guys a problem I had at the very beginning of grade 10th. I am going to go to grade 11th next year. But I still cannot figure this out. (So it's obviously not homework). Any help will be highly appreciated.
A canoe (mass 0.5kg) has an initial velocity of 10 m/s. As it moves along the river, a force F = 0.5v acts on it (to make it decelerate). Calculate the distance the canoe will go when:
a/ Its velocity is 5 m/s.
b/ The canoe stops.
(I'm sorry if my translation of the problem is not clear).
The book gives the answer for a is 5m, and b is 10m.
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So what I have so far is a = -v. And I know that to calculate the distance, I must have a function v with respect to t. But... how can I have it? :confused:
Thanks a lot.
Viet Dao,
 
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Can u integrate that ODE...?It's separable.

Daniel.
 
Can you give me a little hint (just a little bit to clear my mind)? I am stuck...
Viet Dao,
 
[tex]0.5\frac{dv}{dt}=-0.5 v(t)[/tex]

is the separable I-st order ODE that needs to be solved,using the initial condition the problem's giving.

Daniel.
 
Okay, I'm not sure. But here's what I get:
[tex]\frac{dv}{dt} = -v(t)[/tex]
And I want
[tex]s = \int^\varepsilon_\xi v(t)dt[/tex]
Plug that in the function and I have:
[tex]s = \int^\alpha_\beta -1 dv[/tex]
[tex]s = \int^\beta_\alpha 1 dv[/tex]
For a/
[tex]s = \int^{10}_{5} 1 dv = 5[/tex]
For b/
[tex]s = \int^{10}_{0} 1 dv = 10[/tex]
Is it correct? Is there another way?
Thanks,
Viet Dao,
 
It's not correct.There's another way.It's called separation of variables.

[tex]\frac{dv}{v}=-dt[/tex] (1)

[tex]\int \frac{dv}{v}=-\int dt[/tex] (2)

[tex]\ln v(t)=-t+C[/tex] (3)

[tex]v(t)=\bar{C}e^{-t}[/tex] (4)

,where [itex]\bar{C}=e^{C}[/itex] (5)

(4) is the solution to your problem.You need to find the integration constant by imposing the initial condition.

Daniel.
 
Thanks very much. Finally, I know how to solve this problem. :smile:
Viet Dao,
 

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