What are the orthogonal trajectories for x^2y=c_1 and x^2+c_{1}y^3=1?

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The discussion revolves around finding the orthogonal trajectories for the equations x^2y=c_1 and x^2+c_{1}y^3=1, which are related to differential equations and curves in a coordinate system.

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  • The original poster attempts to find orthogonal trajectories by solving the given equations and expresses uncertainty about their correctness. Some participants question the validity of the original poster's solution for part (a) and suggest showing the steps taken to derive it. Others provide insights into differentiating the equations to find the necessary relationships for orthogonality.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing guidance on how to approach the differentiation and the implications for finding orthogonal trajectories. There is an acknowledgment of the time taken for responses, indicating a community engagement aspect.

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Participants note the challenge of eliminating constants in the equations and the need for clarity in the steps taken to derive solutions. There is a mention of the original poster's concern regarding the lack of responses, reflecting the dynamics of forum interactions.

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find the orthogonal trajectories of the following

(a) [tex]x^2y=c_1[/tex]


(b) [tex]x^2+c_{1}y^3=1[/tex]


for part (a) I've found [tex]y=\frac{1}{2}\log{|x|} + C_2[/tex]


for part (b) if i solve this integral this should be the O.T.

[tex]\frac{3}{2}\int{(\frac{1}{x^2}-1)}dx= \frac{y^2}{2}[/tex]

is this correct?
 
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this is very unusual that nobody has posted a response to this thread.
 
There was about three hours between your first and second posts! Do you think we have nothing better to do? (Especially on a Saturday- I spent yesterday hiking in the Shenandoah National Park!)

Your answer to part (a) is incorrect. We might be able to help you more if you showed how you got that.

Differentiating x2y= c1 with respect to x gives
2xy+ x2y'= 0: we have removed the constant c1. The point is that any member of that family of trajectories must satisfy that differential equation which is the same as y'= -y/x. We know that the slopes, m1 and m2 of two lines y= m1x+ b1 and y= m1x+ b2 must satisfy m1m2= -1 or m2= -1/m1.
Any curve orthogonal to every member of the family given must have, at each point, y'= dy/dx= -1/(-y/x)= x/y. That separates as ydy= xdx. What is the general solution to that?

For (b) [tex]x^2+c_{1}y^3=1[/tex]
it's a little harder to eliminate c1 but if you rewrite this as [tex]x^2y^{-3}+ c_1= y^{-3}[/tex], differentiating with respect to x will eliminate c1.
 
There was about three hours between your first and second posts! Do you think we have nothing better to do? (Especially on a Saturday- I spent yesterday hiking in the Shenandoah National Park!)

I appreciate all the help that I've received on this site. Phs. forums is a great resource. But i posted my initial post yesterday and my second post today. I just thought that it was unusual for a post not to be responded to in the amount of time that my post was up. I'm glad you had a good time hiking unlike myself who has spent all of today as well as yesterday getting prepared for the upcoming week.
 
Oops! My bad: there were 12+ about three hours between your first and second posts! Hope my response helped.
 

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