Small supersonic diffuser design

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the design of a small supersonic diffuser intended for use in a pneumatic valve. Participants explore various aspects of the design, including parameters, applications, and theoretical considerations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in designing a supersonic diffuser with specific parameters, including an inlet diameter of 4 to 5 mm and an incoming air pressure of about 100 bar.
  • Another participant questions the intended application, asking if the goal is to vent to sub-atmospheric pressures and what the current venting configuration is.
  • Concerns are raised about the purpose of the diffuser, with a participant noting that diffusers typically increase pressure by trading off velocity pressure for static pressure.
  • A suggestion is made to define existing versus desired conditions as a starting point for the design process.
  • A reference to a book on diffuser design technology is provided as a potential resource for further information.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and confusion regarding the design requirements and intended outcomes, indicating that multiple competing views remain and the discussion is not resolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the clarity of the design parameters and the specific application of the diffuser, as well as unresolved questions about the expected configuration and operational conditions.

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I want to design a very small supersonic diffuser to be used in a pneumatic valve. Can anyone provide some help?

thanks.
 
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and you posted the same topic twice... why? there was nothing wrong with your last post if you thought there was some kind of problem. just give it a day and you'll get some good posts

sorry dude this is not my field so i can't help you design anything. i say ignore detail until later and just stop and consider every possibility
 
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What exactly are you wanting help with? Can you define the basic design parameters you require? What is the end application?
 
well fred,
i want to design a diffuser with inlet dia of about 4 to 5 mm and incoming air pressure of about 100 bar. The purpose is to lower the pressure of the vent port in a pneumatic valve. I want to know how to design the interior surface of the diffuser.
thanks.
 
There are a couple of things that are confusing me about your last statement. I'm probably just misunderstanding what you are trying to achieve.

Are you wanting to vent to sub-atmospheric pressures? What is your vent currently venting to?

The purpose of a diffuser is to increase pressure by trading off velocity pressure for static presssure. What is your expected configuration in the valve to have the diffuser do what you stated it is needed for? Are you thinking along the lines of an ejector perhaps?
 
what are you asking for the area the material I really don't understand
 
Most design concepts start with defining the existing condition vs the desired condition. Numbers are very helpful in this regard.
 
Dr. Japikse has a book called Diffuser Design Technology. You can try to take a look first.

http://www.conceptseti.com/education/pub_books.htm#two
 
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