Finding Maximum Acceleration on a Box on a Cart with Friction

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a cart on a frictionless surface and a box on top of it that experiences friction. The original poster seeks to determine the tension in a rope that would result in maximum acceleration of the cart.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to relate the tension in the rope to the maximum acceleration by using the coefficient of static friction and normal force. Some participants question the reasoning and encourage a focus on the forces directly acting on the cart.

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Participants are exploring the relationship between the forces acting on the cart and the resulting acceleration. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to clarify the forces involved, and the original poster has made a subsequent attempt to refine their reasoning based on feedback.

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The problem involves assumptions about friction and the forces acting on both the cart and the box, which are being examined in the discussion.

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This is a link to a picture of my problem:

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/9382/cart5rh.jpg

It asks what tension on the rope would give the cart a maximum acceleration. The surface the cart is on is frictionless, while the cart itself is not (the surface the box is on).

To solve this, I figured that pulling the rope with a force of usN would give the maximum acceleration of the cart. However, this seems too easy; I think I may have not completely answered the question.

|T| = usN = usmg

Is my reasoning correct? Thanks.
 
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You really didn't provide your reasoning, just your answer. (No, it's not correct.)

Instead, think this way: What's the only force directly applied to the cart? What's the maximum acceleration acceleration that that force can give the cart? Use that to find the required tension in the rope.
 
What contact force is exerted on the cart?
 
Doc Al said:
You really didn't provide your reasoning, just your answer. (No, it's not correct.)
Instead, think this way: What's the only force directly applied to the cart? What's the maximum acceleration acceleration that that force can give the cart? Use that to find the required tension in the rope.
Ok this is what I came up with:

[tex]F_M=\mu_sN\implies a_M=\frac{\mu_sN}{M}[/tex]

[tex]T=\left(M+m\right)a=\frac{\left(M+m\right)\mu_sN}{M};\quad N=mg[/tex]

Is this correct?

Thanks again.
 
Now you've got it.
 
Thanks Doc Al, I appreciate it.
 

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