Net Force Questions: Answers & Help

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The discussion revolves around net force calculations related to a truck and a car, focusing on understanding the physics concepts of force, mass, and acceleration. Participants are exploring the implications of given values and the relationships between them.

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  • Participants are attempting to calculate net forces and accelerations based on provided scenarios, questioning the validity of their calculations and the assumptions behind them. There is a discussion about the correct application of kinematic equations and the interpretation of units.

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Participants are dealing with potential misunderstandings regarding unit conversions and the definitions of force and mass. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity on the relationships between different physical quantities involved in the problems.

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1. A 1.2 x 10^4 kg truck is traveling south at 22 m/s.
a) What net force is required to bring the truck to a stop in 330 m?
b) What is the cause of this net force?
Answer: a) 8.0 x 10^3 N [N]

2. Each of the four wheels of a car pushes on the road with a force of 4.0 x 10^3 N [down]. The driving force on the car is 8.0 x 10^3 N [W]. The frictional resistance on the car is 6.0 x 10^3 N [E]. Calculate the following:
a) the mass of the car
b) the car's acceleration
Answer: a) 1.6 x 10^3 kg b) 1.2 m/s^2 [W]

I have the answers to these two questions, but I really need help on how to understand and do it.

So far...
1. a) v = d/t
t = d/v
t = (0.33 km)/(22 m/s )
t = 0.015 s

a = v/t
a = (22 m/s )/(0.015 s)
a = 1466.7 m/s^2 ?? <====== stopped here because this makes no sense..
 
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the time makes no sense... you are right :p

here is your problem

t = (0.33 km)/(22 m/s )

the distance has to be in meters...
 
thua said:
1. A 1.2 x 10^4 kg truck is traveling south at 22 m/s.
a) What net force is required to bring the truck to a stop in 330 m?
b) What is the cause of this net force?
Answer: a) 8.0 x 10^3 N [N]

If you've covered energy then that would be the best way to solve the problem. If not then the following equation should look familiar:

[itex]v_f^2 = v_i^2 + 2ad[/itex] which is what you should use to tackle this problem.
 
whozum... is that to find the acceleration?

(22 m/s )^2 = (0 m/s )^2 + 2a(330 m)
a = 0.73 m/s^2

f = ma
f = 8760 N <----- something's still wrong
 
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if you want the truck to stop acceleration has to be negative...
 
that still doesn't work though because the net force comes up to -8670 N .

i think I'm totally missing out on something here...
 
thua said:
that still doesn't work though because the net force comes up to -8670 N .

The acceleration is not south but north, -8670 N = 8670N [N]. However I don't know why they have 8.0 x 10^3N as the answer, your answer of 8670 is alomst correct.

By the way the correct solution is

[itex]v_f^2 = v_i^2 + 2ad[/itex] you had the velocities mixed up.

[itex](0)^2 = (22)^2 + 2a(330m)[/itex]

[itex]a = \frac{22^2}{-660} = -0.733333 [/tex]<br /> <br /> [itex]F = ma = m(-0.7333333) = 8800N = 8.8 \times 10^3 N [N][/itex][/itex]
 
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okay thankssss... and for number 2... i really don't know how itll work cause mass is equal to net force over acceleration, but all i have is net force... no acceleration... so how would that work out?
 
The force from the 4 tires is the weight of the car (normal force). You can find the mass from there.
 
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does that mean that the answer is wrong again? because i came up with 16000 N which is 1.6 x 10^4 and they say its 1.6 x 10^3 kg.

and does 1 N equal to 1 kg... I am not very familiar with that.
but 1 N actually equals to 1 kg x m/s^2, though right?
 
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you answered your own question a Newton is a kg * m/s^2
 

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