How were logs and roots calculated before calculators?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around historical methods for calculating logarithms and roots prior to the advent of calculators. Participants explore various techniques and algorithms that were employed, including both manual methods and tools like slide rules.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant recalls a technique for calculating roots learned in A level maths, suggesting that clever methods were developed before calculators, but does not specify the technique.
  • Another participant mentions the widespread use of slide rules as a common tool for calculations before calculators.
  • A participant describes an algorithm for calculating square roots using pen and paper, referencing a book from 1920, but admits to not fully remembering the details.
  • A similar method is reiterated by another participant, providing a specific example of calculating the square root of 55 using a divide-and-average approach.
  • One participant notes that the divide-and-average method can be derived from Newton's method for finding zeroes of nonlinear functions.
  • Another participant introduces a faster algorithm for calculating square roots based on the expansion of (10a+b)^2, which involves working out digits based on pairs of digits of the square.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various methods and algorithms for calculating roots, but there is no consensus on a single technique or the best approach. Multiple competing views and techniques remain present in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some methods mentioned may depend on specific assumptions or definitions, and the discussion does not resolve the effectiveness or accuracy of the various techniques presented.

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I'm not sure whether this is the correct forum, so I apologise if it's in the incorrect forum.

Anyway, when studying A level maths a few years ago, we came across a technique for calculating roots that my teacher claimed was used before calculators were invented. I can't remember the actual technique used, but I remember thinking at the time that it was particularly clever. He also claimed that before calculators, mathematicians were forced to invent other, similarly clever techniques to work out their logs and roots etc.

So, what were these techniques? How exactly were the logs and roots calculated before modern computing machines?
 
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How is it possible that BobG hasn't shown up in this thread yet? :biggrin:
 
There is an algorithm to calculate square roots to any required degree of accuracy with merely pen and paper alone. I learned it from a book published in about 1920 aimed at 16 year olds when I was about 10; the book is also no longer in print. Anyway, my point is, I can't really remember it, but if someone really wanted to, I could half-remember and half-work it out. Or maybe someone else knows it too.
 
masudr said:
There is an algorithm to calculate square roots to any required degree of accuracy with merely pen and paper alone. I learned it from a book published in about 1920 aimed at 16 year olds when I was about 10; the book is also no longer in print. Anyway, my point is, I can't really remember it, but if someone really wanted to, I could half-remember and half-work it out. Or maybe someone else knows it too.
Suppose you want the squareroot of 55. It must lie between 7 and 8.
Try 7.5. [tex]\frac{55}{7.5} = 7.333[/tex]
Now, calculate the mean:
[tex]\frac{7.5 + 7.333}{2} = 7.41666[/tex]
and use it in the new iteration:
[tex]\frac{55}{7.41666} = 7.41573[/tex]
[tex]\frac{7.4166 + 7.41573}{2} = 7.416198468[/tex]
Using the calculator of Windows, you get for the squareroot of 55 the value 7.416198487...
 
This "divide-and-average" method can be derived using the more general http://planetmath.org/encyclopedia/NewtonsMethod.html of finding zeroes of nonlinear functions.
 
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These algorithms are slow; a faster one realizes that
[tex](10a+b)^2 = 100a^2 + 20ab + b^2[/tex]
and works out the digits of the square root based on pairs of digits of the square, by finding a [itex]b[/itex] such that [itex]b(20a+b)[/itex] matches whatever is left (having subtracted the first term already).
 

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