Circular Motion: Finding Angular Velocity in a System of Interconnected Wheels

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving circular motion, specifically calculating the angular velocity of a larger wheel driven by a smaller wheel in contact with it. The original poster presents their calculations based on the given angular velocity of the smaller wheel and the radii of both wheels.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between angular velocity and tangential velocity, questioning the assumptions made about the speeds of the wheels. The original poster attempts to calculate the angular velocity of the larger wheel based on the smaller wheel's parameters, while others suggest reconsidering the approach based on the equality of tangential speeds at the point of contact.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and clarifications regarding the relationship between angular and tangential velocities. There is recognition of confusion around the concepts, and some participants express their understanding of the differences between angular velocity and tangential speed. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants discuss unit conversions, noting that both centimeters and meters could be used as long as consistency is maintained. There is a focus on ensuring that the calculations align with the physical principles governing the motion of the wheels.

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This is the question...

A small wheel of radius 1.4cm drives a large wheel of radius 15cm by having their circumferences pressed together. If the small wheel turns at 407 rad/s, how fast does the larger one turn? Answer in rad/s

This is what I was thinking...

radius of smaller wheel = .014m
radius of larger wheel = .15m

circumference of smaller wheel = 2*pi*r = 2*3.14*.014 = .08792
angular velocity of smaller wheel (given) = 407 rad/s

angular velocity = circumference/time
time = circumference/angular velocity
=.08792/407 = .000216s

circumference of larger wheel = 2*pi*r = 2*3.14*.15 = .942

angular velocity = circumference/time
=.942/.000216 = 4361.11 rad/s

Does this approach look right?
 
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I disagree... By intuition, you can predict that the larger wheel is going to turn more slowly.. Try another approach..

Hint: Consider the fact that the speeds of circumferences are equal.

Eq: speed = w x r

w = angular velocity
r = radius

Does this help?

Sam
 
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You are right... the larger wheel should go slower.

but since the speed of smaller wheel is 407 rad/s won't the larger wheel speed be the same?

so is the answer to the problem 407 rad/s for the larger wheel? but that doesn't make sense because the larger wheel is supposed to go slower...

I am confused...
 
OK, so if the speed at the circumfrence is:

v = w x r (as I stated above).

If the wheels are in contact this speed is equal on both wheels (not the angular velocity). Therefore:

wsmall x rsmall = wlarge x rlarge

I can't give you anymore hints without doing it now.

Good Luck... Let me know what you get for an answer.
Sam
 
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ohh i got it. i was confused between angular velocity (w) and tangential velocity(v).

Hey another question. do you know if i did the right thing by converting the radius to (m) or should i have left it as (cm)?
 
You could have left it as cm because you're dividing by the other length (which should have the same units).

I usually convert thing to metres at the start though, its good practice in my experience.

What was your final answer?

Sam
 
ok thanks

my final answer was 37.9866 rad/s

does that sound about right?
 
:smile: Exactly what I got
 
thanks for all your help
 
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Anytime,

Glad to help. I joined this forum to get help, but giving help is just as useful to me, boosts my understanding too.
 

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