Integrating Ln x: Does the Answer Always Equal 1/x?

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the natural logarithm function, specifically whether the integral of expressions like ln(ax) results in 1/x. Participants are exploring the properties of logarithmic functions and their derivatives in the context of integration.

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  • Participants are questioning the relationship between the integration of ln(ax) and its derivative, with some expressing confusion about the results they obtain when integrating. There are discussions about using integration by parts and the implications of the chain rule in differentiation.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the properties of logarithms and differentiation, while others are still grappling with their understanding of integration techniques. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct application of integration by parts and the nature of logarithmic derivatives.

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Participants mention concerns about the implications of these problems on their grades, indicating a high-stakes context for their understanding. There is also a reference to specific integration techniques and the need for careful application of rules.

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When you intergrate a Ln ax problem does is the answer always 1/x

for example integrate ln 2x
does it equal 1/x or ln 3x and so on

For some reason when i work it out on paper or my calculator it comes out to 1/x and I just don't think its right. I think I am just being catious since the problems I am doing will determine my grade for this semester.
 
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Note that by definition,
[tex]\ln x = \int_1^x \frac{1}{t} dt[/tex]
While the derivative of ln(x) is 1/x, its integral certainly is not. you can find its integral by parts (product rule). If you want the derivative of ln(f(x)) for some function f, use the chain rule.
This will tell you that the derivative of ln(ax) for any non-zero constant a is indeed 1/x. What are your reasons for thinking this derivative to be incorrrect ?
This should just remind you that ln(ax) = ln(a) + ln(x), a simple algebraic rule of all logarithms.
 
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Well when you differentiate ln x will it always be 1/x even if its ln 2x or ln 3x.

the problem is an integration by parts and i set my u as ln 3x and my dv as 2x^4

when i try to find the answer for the du i get 1/x with my calc and also when i do it on paper. I just want to make sure that it correct.
 
Steel_City82 said:
Well when you differentiate ln x will it always be 1/x even if its ln 2x or ln 3x.
the problem is an integration by parts and i set my u as ln 3x and my dv as 2x^4
when i try to find the answer for the du i get 1/x...
There's no problem there. :smile: Just keep going by parts until you get something you can work with.
 
thanks for your help
 
If you want to integrate ln(x), make u=ln(x) and dv=1. The answer is quite simple from there.

For any function in the form of aln(ax), the derivative will always be 1/x.
 

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