Can You Control Voluntary Muscle Movements?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the ability to control voluntary muscle movements, with participants sharing personal experiences and questioning the variability in such abilities among individuals. The scope includes anecdotal evidence, potential evolutionary explanations, and the possibility of learning these movements through practice.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express curiosity about why certain muscle movements, like flaring nostrils or contracting the scrotum, can be controlled by some individuals but not others.
  • One participant claims to have a high degree of control over various muscles, including the ability to move the scrotum, nostrils, and other body parts.
  • Another participant suggests that the ability to control the scrotum is rare but can be learned with practice, mentioning its use in martial arts.
  • A participant notes that their daughter can create folds in her tongue, referencing similar abilities seen on television.
  • There is a suggestion that evolutionary factors may play a role in the loss of certain muscle control, as those who cannot perform specific movements may not face disadvantages in survival.
  • One participant questions whether there have been studies on the ability to move the scrotum and the potential for acquiring this trait.
  • Another participant describes their ability to slightly move their scrotum by contracting specific muscles, linking this to learned control rather than purely evolutionary traits.
  • A participant shares an unusual ability to vibrate their eardrums, expressing uncertainty about how this is possible.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of voluntary muscle control, with multiple competing views on whether these abilities are innate, learned, or influenced by evolutionary factors.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the ability to learn muscle control through practice and the potential genetic factors influencing these abilities remain unresolved and lack empirical support.

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Why is it that some people can move muscles and others can't?
Like why can't i flare my nostrals?
is it weird my friend can voluntary contract and relax his scrotum up and down?

please post any strange voluntary muscle movments you can do.
Why can somepeople do it and not others?
 
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i have a freakish degree of control. i can flare my nostrils, move my toes with some control, my nose, my ears, my whole...general...scalp region, my pecs, and i can move my tongue and adams apple both really fast. i can do the scrotum thing too. just suck it up, then let it go. penis too, contract and relax.

p.s. this topic is very disturbing
 
The scrotum thing is kinda rare but not unheard-of. And those who do not naturally posses the ability can learn it with lots of rpactice. In fact, it is taught as a martial-art technique to protect against groin kicks.
 
My younger daughter can make multiple folds in the tip of her tongue. It's really weird, I've seen some people on tv do it.
 
rare? yay i feel so special
 
I have vertical scrotum control, didn't think it was special...

To answer your question, when something stops being used, it's lack of mobility stops being a negative thing. Humans a long time ago lost the need to move their ears, and people who couldn't move their ears were just as likely to survive as people who couldn't. Simmilarly, people who were born unable to move their scrotum, flare their nostrils, move specific toes etc. had no real disadvantage, and thus were just as likely to survive as people who couldn't.
 
LURCH said:
The scrotum thing is kinda rare but not unheard-of. And those who do not naturally posses the ability can learn it with lots of rpactice.
Has there actually been a study asking people if they can move their scrotum up and down? And then a further study to see if the trait can be acquired?
 
After close examination i have discoverd i can verticaly move my scrotum slightly by contracting a muscle which seems to be inbetween the muscles i use to stop mid-way through urinating and the muscle i use to contract my anal sphincter.

I don't think muscle movements is totally an evolutionary trait, i think they can be learned. Martial arts people can learn to control a lot more of there muscles through meditative techniques, they can even change their heart rate. Is there any of these muscle movments affected by genetics?
 
i can vibrate my own eardrums. i have no idea how it is possible, but i can flex some muscles somewhere around my head and i feel my middle ear vibrating and it sounds like I am in the middle of an avalanche. is that really weird?
 

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