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Oct3-11, 01:08 PM   #35
 
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Is Big Bang true?


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No , big bang is wrong because it asserts our universe arose from a singularity which is wrong , Instead colliding branes models avoids the initial singularity .
We may find out one day that you are right, or we may find out you are wrong, but for today your categorical assertion that it was colliding branes that started out universe is theological (non-falsifiable) not scientific.
Oct3-11, 04:36 PM   #36
 
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No , big bang is wrong because it asserts our universe arose from a singularity which is wrong , Instead colliding branes models avoids the initial singularity .
The big bang makes no assertions to my understanding. Or rather it says something akin to "our model breaks down beyond a certain time" and does not specifically claim that it arose from a singularity.
Oct4-11, 07:24 AM   #37
 
So the big bang theory is not the correct way to explain the origin of the universe but it can rather describe approximately the universe beyond a certain time .
Oct4-11, 07:36 AM   #38
 
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So the big bang theory is not the correct way to explain the origin of the universe but it can rather describe approximately the universe beyond a certain time .
Yes, and generally that time is taken to be the Plank Time which is about 10E-43 seconds.
Oct4-11, 08:07 AM   #39
 
I'm also very interested on Big Bang Theory before. I think that the Big Bang theory is neither correct nor wrong, but is the best way to explain the origin of the universe by now. I don't know how the point ball of space before the Big Bang can store so much energy that created all of us, but this theory is predicted by looking the sky. All stars and galaxy are moving away! I don't say that the theory is correct but, who know it is the truth?

Either the universe is expanding or not, it depends on how you view the universe! The red shift detected from stars suggested that the universe is expanding, one point for Big Bang theory. But if you look at the red shift, the effect of red shift is being transmitted million years ago, we know that the universe is expanding before, but not necessary for now. I don't know what is happening on the sky there by now, so we are studying history.

What I can say is the human life is too short for us to make observation. Well, at least we can make a foolish prediction so that the future generation can refer on it.
Oct4-11, 10:53 AM   #40
 
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I'm also very interested on Big Bang Theory before. I think that the Big Bang theory is neither correct nor wrong, but is the best way to explain the origin of the universe by now.
No, the big bang theory does NOT predict the origin of the Universe, it describes everts after the Plank time and it absolutly IS correct.

Either the universe is expanding or not, it depends on how you view the universe! The red shift detected from stars suggested that the universe is expanding, one point for Big Bang theory. But if you look at the red shift, the effect of red shift is being transmitted million years ago, we know that the universe is expanding before, but not necessary for now. I don't know what is happening on the sky there by now, so we are studying history.
No, that is not correct either. The universe IS expanding.

What I can say is the human life is too short for us to make observation. Well, at least we can make a foolish prediction so that the future generation can refer on it.
No, that is not correct either. Physicsts have made THOUSANDS of observations (probably MUCH more than that) and they all tell a coherent and consistent story. There are holes in our knowledge, but your belief that we operate from total ignorance it just silly.
Oct4-11, 01:15 PM   #41
 
Why do you feel so ardently that the big bang theory is wrong? To be skeptical is one thing, but to blatantly disregard evidence is another...
Do you have a religious or other non-scientific objection to the big bang?
Oct4-11, 01:27 PM   #42
 
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Why do you feel so ardently that the big bang theory is wrong? To be skeptical is one thing, but to blatantly disregard evidence is another...
Do you have a religious or other non-scientific objection to the big bang?
Who is this directed towards?

Not sure any of the detractors are being ardent. More like mere indefensible superstition.
Oct4-11, 01:33 PM   #43
 
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Who is this directed towards?

Not sure any of the detractors are being ardent. More like mere indefensible superstition.
Dave, I though that post was an appropriate response to Ivy1992's post, which is nonsense, although yeah, the "ardent" was a stretch.
Oct4-11, 02:30 PM   #44
 
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Ivy1992's post, which is nonsense
True.

Wasn't sure if it was directed at zahero too/instead.
Oct4-11, 02:41 PM   #45
 
Oops! I made that post with my phone, I guess it didn't quote who I wanted to. It was to that junchiriki guy, who believes the universe is static (I don't remember how his user name is spelled). Although I suppose it could apply to several posters on this thread.

I used the term blatant, not ardent ;)
Oct4-11, 03:28 PM   #46
 
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It was to that junchiriki guy
...who last posted to this thread nearly four months ago.
Oct4-11, 03:40 PM   #47
 
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...who last posted to this thread nearly four months ago.
Apologies, on my phone all I noticed was that this thread was trending. I saw his posts about how the big bang was false and thought I'd ask a most obvious question.

I'm not a big forum guy, this is the first time I've really been active on one- I'll make sure to keep an eye on such things from now on :)
Oct4-11, 11:34 PM   #48
 
Quote by 1mmorta1 View Post
Why do you feel so ardently that the big bang theory is wrong? To be skeptical is one thing, but to blatantly disregard evidence is another...
Do you have a religious or other non-scientific objection to the big bang?
Quote by 1mmorta1 View Post
Oops! I made that post with my phone, I guess it didn't quote who I wanted to. It was to that junchiriki guy, who believes the universe is static (I don't remember how his user name is spelled). Although I suppose it could apply to several posters on this thread.

I used the term blatant, not ardent ;)
In both cases, the emphasis is mine...
Oct5-11, 03:34 AM   #49
 
Whoa, ok, I just skeptical on it, so I made a suggestion. Well, very obvious that the suggestion is wrong, you may simply ignore it. I got to study more about it.
Sorry for nonsense reply, but I think it is possible.
Oct5-11, 08:38 AM   #50
 
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but I think it is possible.
Well, anything is possible when one has no facts. But from thence comes faeries, ghosts and unicorns too.
Oct5-11, 09:07 AM   #51
 
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Well, anything is possible when one has no facts. But from thence comes faeries, ghosts and unicorns too.
+1 on that
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