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| Feb13-12, 01:58 PM | #18 |
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Heat equation, Fourier cosine transform
Right, now I get [itex]u(x,y)=\frac{1}{\pi} \{ \int_0^{\infty} \frac{\sin [p(y+a)]e^{-px}}{p}dp + \int_0^{\infty} \frac{\sin [p(a-y)]e^{-px}}{p}dp \}[/itex].
Now I have to use the residue theorem to calculate both integrals? Edit: Hmm probably not... If I change p by z, the integral has no residue in z=0 which probably means it has no pole in z=0? Strange. |
| Feb13-12, 07:23 PM | #19 |
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Hint:
$$\int_0^k \cos kp\,dk = \frac{\sin kp}{p}$$ |
| Feb13-12, 08:03 PM | #20 |
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| Feb15-12, 01:13 PM | #21 |
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I edited my hint to make it more suggestive. Use it to evaluate the integral in post #17.
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| Feb15-12, 01:17 PM | #22 |
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Ok vela, I've been helped on that particular integral (though I still have doubts) by JJacquelin.
I think the main idea was to consider the integrand as a function of k, then differentiate it with respect to k. Then integrate this result (from 0 to infinity) with respect to p (it's slightly less "ugly" than the original integral, though I'm still unsure how to perform that integral but I will ask for help). Then integrate this result with respect to k and take the constant of integration equal to 0. All in all this gives [itex]\int _0 ^{\infty }\frac{\sin (kp)e^{-px}}{p}dp=\arctan \left ( \frac{k}{x} \right )[/itex]. Hence [itex]u(x,y)=\frac{1}{\pi} \arctan \left ( \frac{y+a}{x} \right )+\frac{1}{\pi} \arctan \left ( \frac{a-y}{x} \right )[/itex]. I'd like to know whether your method is the same. If it's a different, I'd like to try it but I don't see how I can use your hint so far. Edit: I just see that you just replied to my last post. I'll check this out. |
| Feb15-12, 01:19 PM | #23 |
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It's slightly different but yields the same result.
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| Feb15-12, 01:32 PM | #24 |
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[itex]I=\int _0 ^{\infty } \int _0^{k} \cos (kp)dke^{-xp}dp=\int _0^k \int _0 ^{\infty } \cos (kp)e^{-px}dpdk[/itex]. I'm stuck on that integral with respect to p (integral by parts failed and I don't see any useful substitution so I used Wolfram Alpha for it). [itex]I=\int _0 ^k \frac{e^{-xp}[k \sin (kp)-x \cos (kp)]}{k^2+x^2} \big | _0 ^{\infty } dk =\int _0 ^k \frac{x}{k^2+x^2}dk=\arctan \left ( \frac{k}{x} \right )[/itex].
Edit: Apparently there are at least 2 ways to tackle down that integral (the one I used wolfram alpha). A double integration by parts or a rewriting of the cos term in function of exponentials. I'll be looking forward this. Thank you very much for all vela. So the answer is post #22 is correct, right? |
| Feb15-12, 01:52 PM | #25 |
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| Feb21-12, 11:14 PM | #26 |
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Instead of starting a new thread about sine/cosine Fourier transform I'll ask here.
Basically I wonder why the problem statement made it clear to take a cosine Fourier transform instead of just a Fourier transform. Is it because it is obvious that the solution to the PDE, u(x,y) is an even function for any fixed x? So that a common Fourier transform would lead to a cosine Fourier transform anyway. P.S.: Just for fun, I think I've plotted the solution function (see post 9 and maybe 10 of http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=577993). |
| Feb22-12, 05:41 AM | #27 |
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It may have been simply for pedagogical reasons.
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| Feb22-12, 02:19 PM | #28 |
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| Feb22-12, 03:16 PM | #29 |
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Yes. That's where the Fourier cosine transform comes from, right? You plug the function into the regular Fourier transform integral and then simplify it using the fact the function is even.
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| Feb22-12, 03:17 PM | #30 |
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