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| Mar13-12, 02:34 AM | #494 |
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The quantum state cannot be interpreted statistically?http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/1201.6554 See also posts #485 - #488. |
| Mar13-12, 03:34 AM | #495 |
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| Mar16-12, 08:31 PM | #496 |
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The author of the last paper on PBR http://lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/1203.2475.pdf posted in Leifer's blog and Leifer doesn't seem to agree with his take on it:
http://mattleifer.info/2012/02/26/qu.../#comment-2618 |
| Mar22-12, 05:30 AM | #497 |
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Another new paper on it:
http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/1203.4779 |
| Mar22-12, 08:06 PM | #498 |
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I thought I'd post these PBR-related papers here for reference:
Physics papers: The quantum state cannot be interpreted statistically (original PBR paper) http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/1111.3328 Generalisations of the recent Pusey-Barrett-Rudolph theorem for statistical models of quantum phenomena http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/1111.6304 Completeness of quantum theory implies that wave functions are physical properties http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/...111.6597v1.pdf The quantum state should be interpreted statistically http://lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/1112.2446.pdf Alternative Experimental Protocol for a PBR-Like Result http://lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/1202.6465.pdf The quantum state can be interpreted statistically http://lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/1201.6554.pdf Can quantum mechanics be considered as statistical? an analysis of the PBR theorem http://lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/1203.2475.pdf On a recent quantum no-go theorem http://lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/1203.4779.pdf Popular: Quantum theorem shakes foundations http://www.nature.com/news/quantum-t...dations-1.9392 PBR, EPR, and all that jazz http://www.aps.org/units/gqi/newslet...d/vol6num3.pdf The PBR Argument - a simplified presentation http://astairs.posterous.com/the-pbr...d-presentation Useful Blogs: Can the quantum state be interpreted statistically? http://mattleifer.info/2011/11/20/ca...statistically/ Quantum Times Article on the PBR Theorem http://mattleifer.info/2012/02/26/qu...e-pbr-theorem/ Philosophical papers: Statistical-Realism versus Wave-Realism in the Foundations of Quantum Mechanics http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/9021..._Mechanics.pdf |
| Mar23-12, 03:51 AM | #499 |
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Bohm2, thank you for the very useful list!
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| Mar24-12, 01:01 AM | #500 |
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Thanks for the references/links bohm2. I think that quantum states can be interpreted statistically, ie., that quantum states don't necessarily represent real physical states. But if you think otherwise, then it would be interesting to read your opinion on that.
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| Apr16-12, 03:03 AM | #501 |
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One related paper (not on the list above) recently published in Physical Review Letters:
http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/1111.6597 |
| Apr27-12, 02:38 PM | #502 |
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tag.
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| May7-12, 10:25 PM | #503 |
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On the reality of the quantum state http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/...nphys2309.html |
| May8-12, 02:02 AM | #504 |
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http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/1111.3328 v2 Hardy also uploaded a related paper today: Are quantum states real? http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/1205.1439 |
| May10-12, 01:05 AM | #505 |
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That Hardy paper was really confusing. A video (May 8/12) from Perimeter Institute by Robert Spekkens discussing PBR but he doesn't seem persuaded to become a psi-ontologist:
http://pirsa.org/displayFlash.php?id=12050021 |
| May10-12, 01:34 AM | #506 |
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Bohm2, thank you for this info. In particular, I would like to quote a part of a sentence by Spekkens above:
"... the second assumption of the theorem is an instance of preparation noncontextuality, a property that is known not to be achievable in any ontological model of quantum theory ..." That was exactly my objection too in an early stage of this thread. |
| May22-12, 04:00 PM | #507 |
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An interesting PhD thesis arguing for state realism that also discusses the recent PBR theorem quite a bit. Interesting, that one of the examiners for this thesis is Robert Spekkens:
The case for quantum state realism http://ir.lib.uwo.ca/cgi/viewcontent...ype=additional |
| May22-12, 05:21 PM | #508 |
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I am not saying this is actually the case, just that is how I understand the concept. The author of the cited paper (Tait) discusses some of these ideas in detail. |
| Jun5-12, 01:02 AM | #509 |
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....For example, the ‘factorisability’ assumption used by PBR can be replaced by a far weaker ‘compatibility’ assumption for the preparations of uncorrelated quantum states..... in agreement with leifer. |
| Jun28-12, 09:16 PM | #510 |
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Another paper on PBR:
http://lanl.arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/pape.../1206.6491.pdf |
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