Distance Problem Find Distance Between Alpha Particles

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The discussion revolves around calculating the distance between two alpha particles based on their electrical potential energy and charge. The problem involves concepts from electrostatics, specifically the relationship between potential energy and distance for charged particles.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the formula for electric potential energy but encounters an issue with their calculations and units. Some participants suggest clarifying the formula used and the significance of significant figures in the answer.

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Participants are actively discussing the correct formula for electric potential energy and the implications of significant figures. There is a focus on identifying errors in the original poster's calculations and understanding the correct interpretation of the problem.

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There are indications of confusion regarding units, as the original poster mistakenly presents a distance in Coulombs instead of meters. The problem's constraints include the need to adhere to significant figures based on the provided data.

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Problem.
Given= k_e=8.98755*10^9 Nm^2/C^2, q_p=1.6021*10^-19 C, and g=9.8 m/s^2.
Two alpha particles (helium nuclei), each consisting of two protons and two neutrons, have an electrical potential energy of 6.35*10^-19 J.
What is the distance between these particles at this time? Answer in m.
Note:I figure out that 1 alpha particle is 3.2*10^-19C. So using the Potential energy of electric formula I squared 3.2*10^-19. Afterwards I divided it by 6.35*10^-19 and multplied that by 8.98755*10^9C to get the answer of 1.45313788*10^-9C. However the answer was incorrect what did I do wrong?
 
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It would be better to write the formula rather than just reciting what you did.

The formula for potential energy for two charged particles with distance r between them is: -(kq1q2)/r (then anti-derivative of the force function with respect to r).

You are given that k=8.99*10^9, that q1 and q2 are both equal to 3.2*10^-19C (actually, you are not given that, you are given that one proton is 1.6021*10^-19 C and an alpha particle has two protons so: 3.20*10^-19 C- Since the potential is given with only 3 sig. figures, I also rounded off k.)and, finally, the the potential is 6.35*10^-19.

That is, the equation says (8.99*10^9)(3.20*10^-19)(3.20*10^-19)/r=
6.35*10^-19 or (92.1*10^-29)/r= 6.35*10^-19. Then 92.1*10^-29= (6.35*10^-19)r so r= (92.1*10^-29)/(6.35*10^-19)= 14.5*10^-10 or
1.45* 10^-9 m.

There are two things wrong with your answer:
1) Since the potential was given with only 3 significant figures, you answer "1.45313788*10^-9" claims too much accuracy.
2) The problem asked for "distance" and specifically said "answer in m" but your answer is "1.45313788*10^-9C" giving the answer in Coulombs as if it were charge!
 
Formula

The formula for this equation is PE_electric=k_c*q1*q2/r. Also when I asked my teacher he said that he didn't get 1.45*10^-9C. He said that I did my math wrong.
 
Also when I asked my teacher he said that he didn't get 1.45*10^-9C. He said that I did my math wrong.

Well, that was pretty much what I said in (2) wasn't it? Please read my response again.
 

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